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The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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My father has had a low calorie diet all of his life. At 78, he is in perfect physical and mental condition. His doctor had only one concern; he is slowly losing weight each year and needs to reverse that. The doctor wanted to prescribe an appetite enhancing drug but my father explained he can not simply gain weight by eating more. It's as if his digestive system is already at a maximum threshold.

I wonder if habitual CR inevitably trains the body to stabilize its weight and if that can not be undone if practiced too long. That then put you at increased mortality risk when you start losing body mass in old age. Caged animal studies might miss this risk because a valued lab rat won't suffer sudden injuries and the resulting prolonged hospital visits.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Does that imply that lifting, building up one's body and consuming excess calories to bulk up is somehow stressful for the body's metabolic aging process?

whether you are muscular or skinny, you have the same set of organs. The fact you are 30 percent bigger in mass means all your organs (heart, liver, kidney, muscles, ...) are working much harder than if you had less mass.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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I checked out the recipes on the iDiet website recommended in the article, and I'm feeling sad and deprived just reading them. I'm willing to suffer for better health, but I'd hate to suffer through a life of egg whites and margarine and then discover in the end that the science was wrong.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Does that imply that lifting, building up one's body and consuming excess calories to bulk up is somehow stressful for the body's metabolic aging process?

whether you are muscular or skinny, you have the same set of organs. The fact you are 30 percent bigger in mass means all your organs (heart, liver, kidney, muscles, ...) are working much harder than if you had less mass.

>your organs are working much harder

That's very misleading logic. You make it out that your organs working much harder is a bad thing in all cases. That's not true.

When you exercise, your organs work much harder. Yet it is much better to exercise and have your organs work harder than to not exercise at all.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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My father has had a low calorie diet all of his life. At 78, he is in perfect physical and mental condition. His doctor had only one concern; he is slowly losing weight each year and needs to reverse that. The doctor wanted to prescribe an appetite enhancing drug but my father explained he can not simply gain weight by eating more. It's as if his digestive system is already at a maximum threshold. I wonder if habitua…

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Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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I can't find the study right now, but from what I understand it is only really beneficial to animals the size of a mice, as soon as you move to bigger animals the effect is sharply reduced, and experiments with monkeys (or was it even primates? I don't remember) didn't find any real life prolonging effect. So you might be subjecting yourself to not enjoying food for no real benefit after all.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

whether you are muscular or skinny, you have the same set of organs. The fact you are 30 percent bigger in mass means all your organs (heart, liver, kidney, muscles, ...) are working much harder than if you had less mass.

>your organs are working much harder That's very misleading logic. You make it out that your organs working much harder is a bad thing in all cases. That's not true. When you exercise, your organs work much harder. Yet it is much better to exercise and have your organs work harder than to not exercise at all.

It's probably not so simplistic one way or the other. However, some organs do function as filters, so overloading them would be detrimental.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Does that imply that lifting, building up one's body and consuming excess calories to bulk up is somehow stressful for the body's metabolic aging process?

In a sense, yes - to build up your muscles they must first be broken down, a cycle which is going to create some amount of stressful churn. If you think about any machine, a higher operating energy/intensity generally correlates to faster breakdown. At the same time, humans in good shape are definitely healthier, and too much calorie restriction can lead to malnourishment. There's a sweet spot somewhere, proponents o…

I think it's the sort of activity that matters. Low impact exercise wears on your joints/etc less than higher intensity stuff (think swimming or walking compared to running).
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