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Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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Re: Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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Super AMOLED > IPS http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/22/samsung-galaxy-s-super-...

But what about power use and price point? It's not a superior technology until the price and the battery drain are comparable.

Super AMOLED consumes 30% less power because it doesn't need back light. It's also thinner. Samsung Galaxy S has 4'' screen and is cheaper than iPhone 4 (with 3.5''). Also LG is unable to produce enough IPS screens for iPad and soon part of the devices will use inferior MVA screens from Samsung. Same can happen with iPhone 4.

Re: Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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It seems to me that the black gaps are bigger. I just did a back of the envelope calculation, using the photos he posted and it looks as though black gaps take up about 30 percent of the space on the first and second iPhone while they take up about 40 percent on the new iPhone 4. I wonder what the effects of that are. It probably just makes the display a bit dimmer (if one were to use the same backlight).

It definitely seems dimmer to me, especially when it autodims, compared to my 3G

Re: Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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Super AMOLED > IPS http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/22/samsung-galaxy-s-super-...

Wow, that link was absolutely useless. No information, no comparisons, nothing. It read more like a hit piece for samsung

How about '180 degree viewing angle', 'Quadrupling the resolution on the screen would only increase the clarity at most only three to five percent' and 'the Retina Display is too power-hungry, which drains the battery up to 30% faster than you’d find on their Super AMOLED screens'

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=...

Re: Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what about power use and price point? It's not a superior technology until the price and the battery drain are comparable.

Super AMOLED consumes 30% less power because it doesn't need back light. It's also thinner. Samsung Galaxy S has 4'' screen and is cheaper than iPhone 4 (with 3.5''). Also LG is unable to produce enough IPS screens for iPad and soon part of the devices will use inferior MVA screens from Samsung. Same can happen with iPhone 4.

I find it very hard to believe that Apple would start using something other than IPS screens on their iPads, considering they advertise it as a feature.

AMOLED has inferior color performance, daytime viewing performance, and angle viewing performance to IPS.

Re: Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what about power use and price point? It's not a superior technology until the price and the battery drain are comparable.

Super AMOLED consumes 30% less power because it doesn't need back light. It's also thinner. Samsung Galaxy S has 4'' screen and is cheaper than iPhone 4 (with 3.5''). Also LG is unable to produce enough IPS screens for iPad and soon part of the devices will use inferior MVA screens from Samsung. Same can happen with iPhone 4.

Samsung still has not enough capacity to supply its own lines and client lines with their Super AMOLED display. When looking in the future instead, in July 2011 they are supposedly opening a new 5.5 gen plant for AMOLED technology that will allow them an output of 30M 3" displays per month.

http://www.oled-display.net/new-55-gen-oled-line-from-samsun...

Apple couldn't use SuperAMOLED because of supply issues more than anything.

Re: Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super AMOLED consumes 30% less power because it doesn't need back light. It's also thinner. Samsung Galaxy S has 4'' screen and is cheaper than iPhone 4 (with 3.5''). Also LG is unable to produce enough IPS screens for iPad and soon part of the devices will use inferior MVA screens from Samsung. Same can happen with iPhone 4.

I find it very hard to believe that Apple would start using something other than IPS screens on their iPads, considering they advertise it as a feature. AMOLED has inferior color performance, daytime viewing performance, and angle viewing performance to IPS.

Super AMOLED =/= AMOLED

http://www.9to5mac.com/samsung-displays-ipad-3420963243 http://www.techeye.net/business/samsungs-apple-ipad-displays...

Re: Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super AMOLED consumes 30% less power because it doesn't need back light. It's also thinner. Samsung Galaxy S has 4'' screen and is cheaper than iPhone 4 (with 3.5''). Also LG is unable to produce enough IPS screens for iPad and soon part of the devices will use inferior MVA screens from Samsung. Same can happen with iPhone 4.

Samsung still has not enough capacity to supply its own lines and client lines with their Super AMOLED display. When looking in the future instead, in July 2011 they are supposedly opening a new 5.5 gen plant for AMOLED technology that will allow them an output of 30M 3" displays per month. http://www.oled-display.net/new-55-gen-oled-line-from-samsun... Apple couldn't use SuperAMOLED because of supply issues more tha…

Yeap, so they had to use the inferior IPS.

Re: Apple Retina Display: Under the microscope comparisons with 1G and 3G

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It seems to me that the black gaps are bigger. I just did a back of the envelope calculation, using the photos he posted and it looks as though black gaps take up about 30 percent of the space on the first and second iPhone while they take up about 40 percent on the new iPhone 4. I wonder what the effects of that are. It probably just makes the display a bit dimmer (if one were to use the same backlight).

Though I'm not discounting that it may in fact be dimmer:

Larger gaps alone implies dimmer, but this can be accounted for by having the pixels put out more light. Having larger gaps on a display doesn't mean it's dimmer, as the pixels have likely changed characteristics in the process of shrinking them.

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