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Re: ProtonVPN

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Looks like they accept CC, paypal, and BTC, no ETH yet.

It only shows CC and Paypal for me :thinkingface:

Strange. I'm finding the page via the "upgrade" tab of my protonmail, maybe they don't accept BTC for exclusively VPN?

Looks like they also accept "Cash" if you contact them.

Re: ProtonVPN

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Great that there's more options out there. Will there be an option to signup over TOR, and pay with ETH or BTC? I run free privacy/security classes for journalists, and some of them have said that their sources can't use paid VPNs because they're afraid of the purchase showing up on their credit card statement. TOR is great, but doesn't yet work for things like video chat (yes i tell them not to use Skype...)

There's a good comparison chart/spreadsheet of VPN providers at [1] - among other things, it can filter on anonymous sign up and payment.

There are certainly VPNs available that you can sign up for over Tor, and pay for with Bitcoin. However, some bitcoin payment services block Tor IP addresses; tools for VPN-over-Tor can be clumsy; and some sites that accept Bitcoin process the payments manually so it can take a day or two.

[1] https://thatoneprivacysite.net/vpn-comparison-chart/

Re: ProtonVPN

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what a dreadful buggy site, failed to signup. gives up as does not auger well for the reliability of the service. is it some pointless phishing thing?

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Been using the beta for a while now, it's been excellent to the extent that I leave it permanently on, even for watching video. Will be subscribing.

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How does this compare to TunnelBear [1]? - TunnelBear is a bit more expensive (4.99$/mo, paid annually vs 4$/mo). - TunnelBear supports up to 5 connections per account vs 2. I use TunnelBear regularly for my browser and phone. Both works great. My subscription is going to expire soon and I'll be open to try other VPN providers, not that there is anything wrong with TunnelBear. Any recommendations? This site [2] has f…

private internet access appears to be good, but I do not think they are very transparent about their operation.

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I have mixed feelings about protonmail. On the one hand, they tend to be on the right side of political / legal issues, and this transparency report is nice: https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ On the other hand, they recently reduced the level of detail in the transparency report. There is also the fact that they are Swiss, and their privacy laws were severely weakened by a recent referendum. In particu…

What would be a good jurisdiction for them?

Re: ProtonVPN

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I saw that they use OpenVPN protocol[1], then I stopped reading other things. Although the encrypted connections can not be decrypted, the OpenVPN protocol is easy to be detected and banned in some highly censored network.

I recommends the shadowsocks protocol[2] which I used in the censored network, which is hard to be detected and decrypted.

[1] https://protonvpn.com/secure-vpn

[2] https://github.com/shadowsocks

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How does this compare to TunnelBear [1]? - TunnelBear is a bit more expensive (4.99$/mo, paid annually vs 4$/mo). - TunnelBear supports up to 5 connections per account vs 2. I use TunnelBear regularly for my browser and phone. Both works great. My subscription is going to expire soon and I'll be open to try other VPN providers, not that there is anything wrong with TunnelBear. Any recommendations? This site [2] has f…

private internet access appears to be good, but I do not think they are very transparent about their operation.

I think it's prudent to assume (even if not accurate in every case) that any VPN provider that reaches PIA scale has already been compromised by the relevant State Actor working its jurisdiction.

It's the tragedy of success in the privacy industry.

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Great that there's more options out there. Will there be an option to signup over TOR, and pay with ETH or BTC? I run free privacy/security classes for journalists, and some of them have said that their sources can't use paid VPNs because they're afraid of the purchase showing up on their credit card statement. TOR is great, but doesn't yet work for things like video chat (yes i tell them not to use Skype...)

Private Internet Access allows payment with popular brand gift cards (Starbucks, etc.) purchased at brick-and-mortar locations for cash. Then you use a disposable e-mail account to receive your password.

Re: ProtonVPN

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How does this compare to TunnelBear [1]? - TunnelBear is a bit more expensive (4.99$/mo, paid annually vs 4$/mo). - TunnelBear supports up to 5 connections per account vs 2. I use TunnelBear regularly for my browser and phone. Both works great. My subscription is going to expire soon and I'll be open to try other VPN providers, not that there is anything wrong with TunnelBear. Any recommendations? This site [2] has f…

I use VyprVPN [1] which I've found to be good and fast. It's a bit of a tough area to research well. I might give TunnelBear a try.

[1]: https://www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn

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