If the gradual engagement includes a reasonably complex operation, like writing an article and then creating an account to post it, does this obviate the need for a CAPTCHA? I'm curious, because I hate CAPTCHAs, but only slightly less than I hate being used as a splog. I think it might, so I'm feeling happy.
Sign Up Forms Must Die
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#12How would you make this site have a gentler slope? Let the user post a comment and then say "Thanks for the comment, now you just need an account to publish this. Enter your username/password."? Some of the sites that do "gradual engagement" piss me off when they let me believe I'm about to do something and then surprise me with a sign up form. It strikes me as tricky and I very frequently walk away. I certainly beli…
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#13How would you make this site have a gentler slope? Let the user post a comment and then say "Thanks for the comment, now you just need an account to publish this. Enter your username/password."? Some of the sites that do "gradual engagement" piss me off when they let me believe I'm about to do something and then surprise me with a sign up form. It strikes me as tricky and I very frequently walk away. I certainly beli…
You have a guest id with no questions asked that lets do everything on the site. You can keep it forever if you come back at least once every two weeks. You only have to join if you want to have your own subdomain - and we ask you for the name and a password - that's it.
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#14If the gradual engagement includes a reasonably complex operation, like writing an article and then creating an account to post it, does this obviate the need for a CAPTCHA? I'm curious, because I hate CAPTCHAs, but only slightly less than I hate being used as a splog. I think it might, so I'm feeling happy.
Why would that remove the need for a CAPTCHA? Normal procedure: Register -> write spam. This method: write spam -> register.
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#16If the gradual engagement includes a reasonably complex operation, like writing an article and then creating an account to post it, does this obviate the need for a CAPTCHA? I'm curious, because I hate CAPTCHAs, but only slightly less than I hate being used as a splog. I think it might, so I'm feeling happy.
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#17Instead what we do is tell them to add a bot to their buddy list and send it a greeting. In doing this, they've already engaged in the service, and we have created an entry in our users database based on their buddy name and chat network. They can then decide whether supply additional information.
There are lots of ways to lower the barrier to entry if you're willing to change the way you think about online services.
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#18How would you make this site have a gentler slope? Let the user post a comment and then say "Thanks for the comment, now you just need an account to publish this. Enter your username/password."? Some of the sites that do "gradual engagement" piss me off when they let me believe I'm about to do something and then surprise me with a sign up form. It strikes me as tricky and I very frequently walk away. I certainly beli…
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#19If the gradual engagement includes a reasonably complex operation, like writing an article and then creating an account to post it, does this obviate the need for a CAPTCHA? I'm curious, because I hate CAPTCHAs, but only slightly less than I hate being used as a splog. I think it might, so I'm feeling happy.
Bots won't be able to ab/use a site with gradual engagement, because the whole process would be too difficult for them to follow, I presume. Thus no need for captchas.
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#20How would you make this site have a gentler slope? Let the user post a comment and then say "Thanks for the comment, now you just need an account to publish this. Enter your username/password."? Some of the sites that do "gradual engagement" piss me off when they let me believe I'm about to do something and then surprise me with a sign up form. It strikes me as tricky and I very frequently walk away. I certainly beli…
An interesting idea, but it would probably deter casual commenters. People who drop by, see something interesting and want to add their two cents, sign their anonymous comment, and leave it at that.
It's a bit of a stretch, possibly, but track users and pester them gently if they comment several times anonymously. Something like "hey, I've noticed you've been around for awhile, if you sign up, you'll get these perks. Would you like to?"
http://qdb.us/latest does SOMETHING like this. It's a quotes database and after you've browsed around awhile it puts a non-intrusive nag-message at the top of the screen directing you to the FAQ. Maybe something similar to direct people to a signup form?