This looks similar to http://www.gear6.com/memcached-product/memcached .
Interesting! I've concluded the same thing based on the very scarce info they're offering.
Membase a new NoSQL
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#13The timing for me is interesting as I was just about to start up a cassandra setup here. This might be a better fit for my particular needs if I could get it running. Unfortunately, I'm having a difficult time figuring out where to start. A general getting started guide would be very helpful. - The FAQ on membase.org is empty and the wiki does not appear to be populated with much content (i.e. 'Directions for working…
I offer no counter or dissent to your post. However, apparently, the binaries have not yet been posted. Perhaps once they get that crucial detail finished, things will be clear. It appears they haven't even reached an actual beta stage. It might have been better for them to wait until everything was ready to go before launching the site publicly.
Considering the 'front-end' of membase is memcached code, you should be able to use any library that interfaces with memcached to interface with membase.
Out of curiosity, what drew you towards Cassandra over, say, Riak or MongoDB?
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#14* there are alternatives but the backers give this project one up. * web site needs a significant overhaul. * this was a commercial product, if i am not mistaken, and just recently opened up. * is this forked off memcached or just another NoSQL with memcached compatibility is still a mystery.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would a static, informational web site be using a database?
There is an argument in favor of marketing to the perception, though. I am sure he/she is not the only viewer that might assume they are eating their own dog food and using it behind their website. We have countless tales on HN about increasing customer interest by speeding up your site. If you want to talk about how cool your tech is, make sure your website reflects a similar attention to the important details. I th…
I agree completely. Rational users would realise that the database has little to no connection to the website's hosting, but are any of us entirely rational? The details always matter.
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#16It's unfortunate there are no Windows binaries (well apparently there are no binaries yet period, but I mean they don't plan on binaries until some time out). We could host Linux VMs, but ideally we just run Windows binaries and get rid of the abstraction.
That is the case for a large number of these products. At best offering a terrible Cygwin port. In the Windows world the premiere product right now is the beta of AppFabric, but almost no one uses that and it has an absurd list of dependencies that preclude many uses.
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#17The key/value model embraced by NoSQL databases (Scalaris, Voldemort, Tokyo Cabinet, etc) is the simplest and easiest to implement but inefficient when you are only interested in querying or updating part of a value.
This article (http://seattleweb.intel-research.net/people/lamarca/pubs/pap...) coming out of Intel argues that it is also difficult to implement more sophisticated structures on top of a distributed key/value. The author's main point is that a few specialized applications can and have been built on a plain distributed key/value store, but most applications have ended up having to customize the key/value store's internals to achieve their functional or performance goals.
From the little bit I have read about Membase it looks well positioned to bring simple distributed key/values stores to the next level and back into the lime light.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would a static, informational web site be using a database?
There is an argument in favor of marketing to the perception, though. I am sure he/she is not the only viewer that might assume they are eating their own dog food and using it behind their website. We have countless tales on HN about increasing customer interest by speeding up your site. If you want to talk about how cool your tech is, make sure your website reflects a similar attention to the important details. I th…
If by CRM you mean CMS, I don't think they're using a CMS because all of the pages seem to be plain HTML based on the extension and the content type. Of course, they could be spoofing that for a number of reasons, but I think it's safe to say that their site's perceived slowness has nothing to do with the database. In any event, it's loading very quickly now.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is an argument in favor of marketing to the perception, though. I am sure he/she is not the only viewer that might assume they are eating their own dog food and using it behind their website. We have countless tales on HN about increasing customer interest by speeding up your site. If you want to talk about how cool your tech is, make sure your website reflects a similar attention to the important details. I th…
I agree completely. Rational users would realise that the database has little to no connection to the website's hosting, but are any of us entirely rational? The details always matter.
True, but then the rational user might conclude that if you can't manage to have a performant static website you might not be able to handle the complicated stuff.
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#20It's unfortunate there are no Windows binaries (well apparently there are no binaries yet period, but I mean they don't plan on binaries until some time out). We could host Linux VMs, but ideally we just run Windows binaries and get rid of the abstraction. That is the case for a large number of these products. At best offering a terrible Cygwin port. In the Windows world the premiere product right now is the beta of…
Porting software to a completely different culture isn't cheap and there's little incentive for volunteer open source projects to do it. If enough software that you want isn't available on Windows, it's probably cheaper for you to learn Unix.