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Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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Users are split on whether window controls should be on the left or right. Hint: make it easily configurable. Otherwise, you get to irritate 40-60% of your users.

Put them in the middle, problem solved

Design by compromise: ensuring that no one is happy.

Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this more suggests just pick one. I don't think one is particularly superior to the other, and every configuration option is another thing to test, making sure everything else window related renders properly. Also every configuration option is another thing to confuse users with. I would much prefer a single well thought out consistent interface than a "build your own" grab bag.

Right or wrong, this does seem more inline with "the Gnome way." It's also why I stopped using Gnome (and in fact, Ubuntu all together). But I suspect I was never their target user, and that's OK. If they can make it easier for more typical computer users, good for them, and they should stick to what works.

Sadly it feels like the "target user" of Gnome (and thus Freedesktop related projects) are dyed in the wool Mac users, but the Gnome people will not admit this even as they drive away more and more existing Linux users.

Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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Users are split on whether window controls should be on the left or right. Hint: make it easily configurable. Otherwise, you get to irritate 40-60% of your users.

The Gnome-Tweak-Tool is going to get this switch.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/gnome-tweak-tool-move-win...

Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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I've used Gnome (on Fedora) for 10+ years as my daily driver and just recently have been using the pre-installed Ubuntu 16.04 and Unity that came with my new Dell laptop. One of the things I immediately loved is the global menu. This greatly expands application space especially on small laptop screens. I figured I would wipe the laptop soon after delivery and install Fedora/Gnome but the look and integration of globa…

Funny thing is that i seem to recall KDE supported that as an option back in the 3.x days. But come the 4.0 debacle i walked away. Had a long stint with XFCE, but as i increasingly had to deal with Gnome-derived "plumbing" (aka sewage) i have now moved to IceWM.

Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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Now that I think of it, what will happen with the Unity HUD (`alt` key brings a search hud that indexes the app's menu, kind of like Sublime/Atom/VSCode's Control+Shift+P command palette)? Will they port it as a Shell add-on?

After using that for a while and switching to another desktop, I sorely missed it.

Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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Of the extensions they surveyed, the only one I really see as a must have is Top Icons Plus. That weird little corner tray that Gnome puts the legacy tray icons in is, well weird. It just seems so out of place.

Of the rest of them, the only one I'd really loathe to see enabled by default is Dash to Dock. I really hate the that when I first log in to a fresh install there's a big static dock(initially filled with utter useless short cuts) eating big bite of screen real estate.

Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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Users are split on whether window controls should be on the left or right. Hint: make it easily configurable. Otherwise, you get to irritate 40-60% of your users.

Also note the design of that pie chart - 'left' is on the right, and 'right' is on the left.

Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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Users are split on whether window controls should be on the left or right. Hint: make it easily configurable. Otherwise, you get to irritate 40-60% of your users.

I think this more suggests just pick one. I don't think one is particularly superior to the other, and every configuration option is another thing to test, making sure everything else window related renders properly. Also every configuration option is another thing to confuse users with. I would much prefer a single well thought out consistent interface than a "build your own" grab bag.

I don't have a multiple monitor setup for my Ubuntu instance, but when I am running windows on multiple monitors, the side of the taskbar (when I don't have it configured to the bottom) makes a huge difference. Depending on which monitor I have it on (let's assume I have the taskbar on the rightmost monitor), havign it on the left gives me a few pixels to hit an icon on it (and worse if it's set to hide automatically) whereas having it on the right gives me an infinite number of pixels.

IOW, the configuration is important even if there is a preferred side.

Re: Ubuntu Reveal Results of Gnome Desktop Survey

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Otherwise, you get to irritate 40-60% of your users. The survey says nothing about how strongly folks hold that preference. I may prefer Schwepps Ginger Ale, but I'm not going to be irritated when offered Canada Dry instead. That "40-60%" number is a ceiling, not a floor.

I would be very irritated if I couldn't put my bar on the left. I put it in the left on every UI I use. The reasoning seems sound though. Where there is no strong user preference, consider making it configurable. The only way you find out how irritated people would be without the option would be to piss them off.

Consider eclipse. It allows the user to configure every. Single. Thing. And in doing so makes configuration difficult because there are so many options. Sane defaults and a consistent environment are better, imho.
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