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Re: The 2017 iPad Pros

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Post by stouset »

archagon wrote: post #6

To me, the fundamental question remains this: what platform is the next web browser, BitTorrent, or BitCoin going to be invented on? I posit that while the iPad remains a closed platform, it will never become the computer of the future, no matter how many pro features Apple adds. In a few years, I expect Apple pundits to be making the same "how were we so wrong on the iPad" articles that they were in 2016. No doubt,…

I would very, very, very much argue that the "computer of the future" this past decade has been the smartphone. It's undeniable how much of an impact this shift has made in people's daily life in the last decade — hell, their widespread adoption paved the way for several multi-billion-dollar companies and launched entire industries.

Not a single one of these apps was primarily developed on the phone itself.

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Post by nailer »

QML wrote: post #8

I would love to see one day iPad Pros with the capability of being plugged into an external GPU and running desktop-grade applications instead of the meek productivity tools that the Apple App Store is constrained to. As a college student, I recently bought an iPad to take notes, and the one thing that's stopping me from selling my laptop is the lack of connectivity and full MacOS. But then where's the future of MacB…

What specifically do you need to connect? And what's missing from full MacOS for note taking purposes?

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Post by pawadu »

QML wrote: post #8

I would love to see one day iPad Pros with the capability of being plugged into an external GPU and running desktop-grade applications instead of the meek productivity tools that the Apple App Store is constrained to. As a college student, I recently bought an iPad to take notes, and the one thing that's stopping me from selling my laptop is the lack of connectivity and full MacOS. But then where's the future of MacB…

This product already exists, its called Microsoft SurfaceBook. The screen works as a detachable tablet, the keyboard contains more battery and a relatively powerful GPU.

It is also expensive as hell.

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Post by wapz »

pawadu wrote: post #13
QML wrote: post #8

I would love to see one day iPad Pros with the capability of being plugged into an external GPU and running desktop-grade applications instead of the meek productivity tools that the Apple App Store is constrained to. As a college student, I recently bought an iPad to take notes, and the one thing that's stopping me from selling my laptop is the lack of connectivity and full MacOS. But then where's the future of MacB…

This product already exists, its called Microsoft SurfaceBook. The screen works as a detachable tablet, the keyboard contains more battery and a relatively powerful GPU. It is also expensive as hell.

The SurfaceBook should be thought of as a laptop and not a tablet imo. I have the surface pro and it a terrible tablet. Well, it's good if you are an artist and doing sketches/artwork but not for the casual programmer. I've used tablet mode under 10 times (I have a nexus 7 which is much better as a tablet) and was unimpressed every time.

Re: The 2017 iPad Pros

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Post by pawadu »

wapz wrote: post #14
pawadu wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This product already exists, its called Microsoft SurfaceBook. The screen works as a detachable tablet, the keyboard contains more battery and a relatively powerful GPU. It is also expensive as hell.

The SurfaceBook should be thought of as a laptop and not a tablet imo. I have the surface pro and it a terrible tablet. Well, it's good if you are an artist and doing sketches/artwork but not for the casual programmer. I've used tablet mode under 10 times (I have a nexus 7 which is much better as a tablet) and was unimpressed every time.

This just shows that a laptop is much better suited for programming than a tablet. Not a huge surprise really. Rudy Huyn uses a Surface Pro for development. I highly doubt he has even once started Visual Studio in tablet mode.

But back to OP, he clearly stated that he wanted to run desktop grade software. I think SurfaceBook fits his requirements.

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Post by huxley »

archagon wrote: post #6

To me, the fundamental question remains this: what platform is the next web browser, BitTorrent, or BitCoin going to be invented on? I posit that while the iPad remains a closed platform, it will never become the computer of the future, no matter how many pro features Apple adds. In a few years, I expect Apple pundits to be making the same "how were we so wrong on the iPad" articles that they were in 2016. No doubt,…

Does it matter if a platform does the inventing? The web browser was invented on a NeXT Cube but that didn't limit its eventual use.

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Post by Veen »

NathanOsullivan wrote: post #7
amerine wrote: post #2

Damn, now that's a glowing review. I might have to check one of these out.

Gruber is a well known Apple shill.

He's definitely an Apple enthusiast, but he doesn't pull his punches when he thinks Apple has made a misstep. His criticism come from a place of love for Apple: he wants Apple to be great, but that's not quite the same thing as being a paid publicist for Apple. I don't think it's fair to call him a shill.

Re: The 2017 iPad Pros

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Post by skc »

Mildly amusing is how everyone else is wrong until Apple does it.

If you're going to use these things with a keyboard and like it then why was Microsoft so roundly mocked for championing touch screen laptops in the first place?

Re: The 2017 iPad Pros

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Post by tartuffe78 »

skc wrote: post #18

Mildly amusing is how everyone else is wrong until Apple does it. If you're going to use these things with a keyboard and like it then why was Microsoft so roundly mocked for championing touch screen laptops in the first place?

Because outside of the home screen and poorly maintained touch-optimized apps most software for Windows is still designed for using with a mouse. iOS is inherently less capable than Windows, but is much better for touch, and all apps are geared towards that.

I was skeptical a few years ago, but I think iOS's productivity potential is growing faster than Windows "Cool Factor", efficiency, and portability are improving.

Re: The 2017 iPad Pros

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Post by skc »

tartuffe78 wrote: post #19
skc wrote: post #18

Mildly amusing is how everyone else is wrong until Apple does it. If you're going to use these things with a keyboard and like it then why was Microsoft so roundly mocked for championing touch screen laptops in the first place?

Because outside of the home screen and poorly maintained touch-optimized apps most software for Windows is still designed for using with a mouse. iOS is inherently less capable than Windows, but is much better for touch, and all apps are geared towards that. I was skeptical a few years ago, but I think iOS's productivity potential is growing faster than Windows "Cool Factor", efficiency, and portability are improving…

I get that Apple has much more touch optimized software.

But aren't they effectively building the same toaster/fridge they mocked just a few years ago?

I was listening to a recent ATP podcast and they were going on about how nobody really wants to touch their laptop screen, but in order for an iPad to be a "pro" device you will realistically have to use it with a keyboard and...touch your screen.

The two companies are converging on the exact same thing yet one is considered ingenious and the other clueless.

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