Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads • Hacker News Board

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by ganoushoreilly » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:21 PM UTC

moduspwnens14 wrote: post #7

Doesn't anonymous sourcing of data like this likely introduce some significant biases?

Extreme bias. As great as these salary's look from the big guys, it totally discredits the real salary ranges from the non big players. I also think it gives a false impression of salary when the truth is very few applicants would get the jobs listed at those rates.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by overcast » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:21 PM UTC

Honestly was expecting a lot more, considering the salaries people throw around on Hacker News. Using http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-l... the adjusted value for $136,000 in SF to where I live in New York is a decent chunk less. Especially being in a DevOps/Systems role, and not a Software Dev one.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by dessant » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:22 PM UTC

It may be interesting to also list age, besides gender and race.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by seanhandley » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:22 PM UTC

ben174 wrote: post #10

dopamean wrote: post #6

This is really data from bootcamp grads (the top of the spreadsheet says so).

This is an important distinction. The salaries on this sheet seem low overall, and it's probably because they're new grads from bootcamp. Someone with 10+ years of experience should be demanding more than the average salary on this list.

You're kidding me.

I'm in the UK, 10 years dev experience, BSc Computer Science.

Every single salary in that list is higher than mine.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by chambo622 » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:23 PM UTC

seanhandley wrote: post #14

ben174 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an important distinction. The salaries on this sheet seem low overall, and it's probably because they're new grads from bootcamp. Someone with 10+ years of experience should be demanding more than the average salary on this list.

You're kidding me. I'm in the UK, 10 years dev experience, BSc Computer Science. Every single salary in that list is higher than mine.

Based on talking to peers at my company who work in the UK, and corroborating stories from friends at similar companies, UK salaries are dramatically lower across the board.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by Cheyana » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:23 PM UTC

Will we see one for female employees? Or would that be too expensive to compile?

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Post by bungie4 » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:24 PM UTC

This makes me want to cry. I'm below all but one of these entries. 30 years experience + full stack + dba.

All because of where I live (small northern ontario town -remotism?) and likley ageism (57). I should be getting paid MORE because of where I live.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by timbuckley » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:24 PM UTC

The vast majority of these are App Academy (a/A) programming bootcamp graduates, which explains why only 10% have CS degrees. Bootcamp graduates are probably not representative of all CS grads, or even most devs, so take this with a grain of salt.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by BigChiefSmokem » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:24 PM UTC

dopamean wrote: post #6

This is really data from bootcamp grads (the top of the spreadsheet says so).

The CS degree column seems to confirm that as well. More proof that you don't need to hand over a small fortune to some college to succeed at what we do on a day to day basis. The industry should have a better indicator of who is a "front-line" developer and who is actually what I consider a computer scientist who is at the forefront of research and development in the field (and should be making a lot more salary/income).

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by kevinrpope » Mon, Jun 12, 2017, 6:25 PM UTC

seanhandley wrote: post #14

ben174 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an important distinction. The salaries on this sheet seem low overall, and it's probably because they're new grads from bootcamp. Someone with 10+ years of experience should be demanding more than the average salary on this list.

You're kidding me. I'm in the UK, 10 years dev experience, BSc Computer Science. Every single salary in that list is higher than mine.

When I lived in London in the late 2000s, dev salaries were shockingly low relative to what we saw in the states both before and after living in the UK.