How the failed deal with Waymo left Ford in the lurch

Post by ktRolster » Tue, May 30, 2017, 4:45 AM UTC

wavefunction wrote: post #7

csours wrote: post #6

Disclaimer: I work for a Ford competitor, but have no first-hand knowledge of this deal. I'm thinking about the concept of 'frenemies' and jumping to some unsupported conclusions. In tech you may have a turnaround of weeks or months for some products. In automotive, you may plan a new vehicle for 5 years and then in some cases produce it for up to 10 years after that, and then continue to support that vehicle for 10…

I don't know any serious business that embraces 'breaking things' when a bit more effort and time ensures that nothing gets broken.

Post by greglindahl » Tue, May 30, 2017, 5:32 AM UTC

Judgmentality wrote: post #12

primrosepath wrote: post #10

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The auto companies everywhere except Tesla are so far behind. Lived in Detroit most of my life. When discussed, the big 3's problems get brushed away irrationally. But it's worse than the future catching up with the auto companies. I feel like the execs don't even know how to market to their customers. Comparing Mary Barbra's unveiling of the Bolt to Elon's Model 3 was night and day. Elon had a teleprompter but he sp…

Well, the big 3 are all currently profitable, so they have that going for them. I'm not sure how Tesla is going to make it as they continue to overpromise, underdeliver, and hemorrhage money. I do agree with you though that Tesla is far better at marketing.

Post by adrianN » Tue, May 30, 2017, 6:05 AM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #8

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I don't know any serious business that embraces 'breaking things' when a bit more effort and time ensures that nothing gets broken.

It goes along with CEOs who wear T-shirts to work.

Post by cinquemb » Tue, May 30, 2017, 8:40 AM UTC

greglindahl wrote: post #13

Judgmentality wrote: post #12

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Well, the big 3 are all currently profitable, so they have that going for them. I'm not sure how Tesla is going to make it as they continue to overpromise, underdeliver, and hemorrhage money. I do agree with you though that Tesla is far better at marketing.

Tesla has had repeated success raising money by going to the financial markets, so, it appears that enough fools are willing to invest to sustain them until now and for a while longer.

Post by _pmf_ » Tue, May 30, 2017, 10:11 AM UTC

michaelvoz wrote: post #14

ams6110 wrote: post #8

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It goes along with CEOs who wear T-shirts to work.

What's the word for this kind of phrase? One where the author of the sentence has some kind of skewed world view, and we get to see a glimpse of it?