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40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found (2015)

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Re: 40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found (2015)

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How do we know that 5000 year old humans didn't make jewelry out of 35000 year old materials?

Because archaeologist's aren't dumb.

You've managed to quite rudely respond without actually answering their question except with an appeal to authority.

While I'm sure the archaeologists who determined it was 40,000 years old had a good reason for it, jeez.

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because archaeologist's aren't dumb.

You've managed to quite rudely respond without actually answering their question except with an appeal to authority. While I'm sure the archaeologists who determined it was 40,000 years old had a good reason for it, jeez.

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Re: 40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found (2015)

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200km is not necessarily 'imported'. People can walk 5km/hr easily. You are talking about 4 days' comfortable walk. Many nomadic groups would have had ranges exceeding 200km at least on occasion. For example I believe there is evidence that some Australian aboriginal societies regularly communicated over vaster distances, at least sporadically - eg. annually in certain seasons.

Re: 40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found (2015)

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I always love quotes like this: "All jewellery had a magical meaning for ancient people. Bracelets and neck adornments were to protect people from evil spirits, for instance."

And we know this how? Maybe it was just made to be pretty. A rich person giving their partner a gift etc. No one could possibly be able to make any further inferences from a species of human we know almost nothing about.

Re: 40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found (2015)

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This article about the bracelet is from 2015. No updates since then, and it does not link to anything peer-reviewed. All in all I would take this with a huge grain of salt.

A simple google search shows further updates... http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/n0711-worlds... https://www.nature.com/articles/srep23559

Except the Siberian Times article also doesn't link to anything peer-reviewed, and the Nature paper is about bone identification, not bracelets or other artifacts.

The only academic paper about the bracelet I could find is from 2008 and was submitted to the journal "Archaeology, Ethnology and Anthropology of Eurasia", whose editor-in-chief, Anatoly Derevyanko, is also the paper's primary author.

Re: 40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found (2015)

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Until now, scientists had believed that such skills had only evolved among humans in the Neolithic period, which began at about 10,000 BC. Indeed, originally, they believed that the bracelet had somehow become mixed up with materials dating from a later period. However, experiments have now definitely ruled that out, and they confirm that it could not have been made by homo sapiens or Neanderthals. After 7 years of analysis, the scientists are confident that the piece was made 30,000 years before the beginning of the Stone Age.

What experiments??

Thanks article! Useless.

Re: 40,000-year-old bracelet made by extinct human species found (2015)

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200km is not necessarily 'imported'. People can walk 5km/hr easily. You are talking about 4 days' comfortable walk. Many nomadic groups would have had ranges exceeding 200km at least on occasion. For example I believe there is evidence that some Australian aboriginal societies regularly communicated over vaster distances, at least sporadically - eg. annually in certain seasons.

Many people walked that distance every year for seasonal jobs even in 20th century.
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