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Re: Root Zone Database

#11

Post by vog »

hayleox wrote: post #10

I don't understand why so many corporations have gone through the very-expensive years-long process of getting their brand name as a TLD, and then proceeded to not use their TLD at all. The only brand name TLD I've seen in real world use is .google ( https://domains.google , https://blog.google ). If you google "site:.whatever" ("whatever" being the TLD you want), you can see all the sites with that TLD that Google k…

> I don't understand why [...] corporations [...] getting their brand name as a TLD, and then [...] not use their TLD

I hope this doesn't sound too snarky, but:

Maybe they know how worthless that TLD is, and just want to ensure they can't be damaged by competition registering those TLDs. After they secured those, they probably didn't want to waste even more money into that topic.

Re: Root Zone Database

#12

Post by timdavila »

purephase wrote: post #3

This is a crazy list. Great to see it all in one place though. I don't pay that much attention to the domain registration space any more, but has the explosion of TLDs achieved the goal of reducing .com cash runs? It certainly seems like other TLDs have reached a level of acceptance, but my experience is not reflective of the majority of users. Also, it's crazy to see TLDs with other languages. Very cool, and not sur…

If anything, the abundance of other options makes .com MORE valuable.

Re: Root Zone Database

#13

Post by jsmthrowaway »

hayleox wrote: post #9
deathanatos wrote: post #7

Binky Sky, LLC Binky Frostbite, LLC Binky Birch, LLC Binky Galley, LLC Binky Moon, LLC Binky Lake, LLC Binky Glen, LLC Silver Glen, LLC Holly Glen, LLC Grand Glen, LLC Magic Glen, LLC Magic Birch, LLC Magic Woods, LLC Magic Pass, LLC Fern Pass, LLC Big Pass, LLC (snip, as it goes on and on) This reads like someone let their Markov chain register TLDs. Is there a rational explanation that isn't some domain-parking com…

All of those companies are subsidiaries of Donuts: http://www.donuts.domains/ There's a complete list of all their TLDs (and the silly LLC names associated with them) here: https://domaintyper.com/new-gTLD/applicant/Donuts I'm not sure why they formed LLCs for every domain they registered. IANA has lots of regulations and paperwork, and everything is really expensive and slow (it takes years to get a TLD registered).…

It's a common practice for liability isolation in real estate management. Every Carmel property is its own LLC. Maybe similar thinking?

Re: Root Zone Database

#14

Post by degenerate »

robalfonso wrote: post #6
purephase wrote: post #3

This is a crazy list. Great to see it all in one place though. I don't pay that much attention to the domain registration space any more, but has the explosion of TLDs achieved the goal of reducing .com cash runs? It certainly seems like other TLDs have reached a level of acceptance, but my experience is not reflective of the majority of users. Also, it's crazy to see TLDs with other languages. Very cool, and not sur…

.com is still king. It's going to be a while until the others get real penetration. And some tld's are never going to take off. Either the pricing is completely unrealistic or the tld is so long you can achieve the same thing in a shorter tld.

Looking at you, yes you... .international

To me, the asinine part of these gTLDs is that companies can register their gTLD with sponsorship ($185K from when I last checked) yet they don't need to sell domains to the public. I understand the idea of exclusivity, but this simply shifts the profiteering racket from one set of players (domain squatters) to another (ICANN and big business).

I'm not happy with how they are doing it. I'd rather a business model be required to sell domains at $X/yr to the public (some reasonable rate), along with a yearly sponsorship instead of one-time. That would put the focus on maintaining a business capable of supporting the cost of the gTLD instead of a digital billboard and bragging rights. Maybe if that was in place, we wouldn't have stupid ones like .northwesternmutual

Re: Root Zone Database

#15

Post by robalfonso »

degenerate wrote: post #14
robalfonso wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.com is still king. It's going to be a while until the others get real penetration. And some tld's are never going to take off. Either the pricing is completely unrealistic or the tld is so long you can achieve the same thing in a shorter tld.

Looking at you, yes you... .international To me, the asinine part of these gTLDs is that companies can register their gTLD with sponsorship ($185K from when I last checked) yet they don't need to sell domains to the public. I understand the idea of exclusivity, but this simply shifts the profiteering racket from one set of players (domain squatters) to another (ICANN and big business). I'm not happy with how they are…

I do see a business case for not selling. .canon for example - you could provide every device with its own domain ie xhshe3u45.canon etc. So there are some cases where it does make sense.

Re: Root Zone Database

#16

Post by robalfonso »

degenerate wrote: post #14
robalfonso wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.com is still king. It's going to be a while until the others get real penetration. And some tld's are never going to take off. Either the pricing is completely unrealistic or the tld is so long you can achieve the same thing in a shorter tld.

Looking at you, yes you... .international To me, the asinine part of these gTLDs is that companies can register their gTLD with sponsorship ($185K from when I last checked) yet they don't need to sell domains to the public. I understand the idea of exclusivity, but this simply shifts the profiteering racket from one set of players (domain squatters) to another (ICANN and big business). I'm not happy with how they are…

I do see a business case for not selling. .canon for example - you could provide every device with its own domain ie xhshe3u45.canon etc. So there are some cases where it does make sense.

Re: Root Zone Database

#17

Post by koolba »

robalfonso wrote: post #15
degenerate wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at you, yes you... .international To me, the asinine part of these gTLDs is that companies can register their gTLD with sponsorship ($185K from when I last checked) yet they don't need to sell domains to the public. I understand the idea of exclusivity, but this simply shifts the profiteering racket from one set of players (domain squatters) to another (ICANN and big business). I'm not happy with how they are…

I do see a business case for not selling. .canon for example - you could provide every device with its own domain ie xhshe3u45.canon etc. So there are some cases where it does make sense.

You can do that already with uuid.cam.canon.com. At best you save a few characters.

Re: Root Zone Database

#18

Post by cornchips »

varunvkrishnan wrote: post #2

The list of domains owned by Google (Charleston Road Registry Inc.) & Amazon (Amazon Registry Services, Inc.) probably give a good idea about their future (predictable) priorities (Google - Ads, Android while Amazon's list looks more shopping oriented) Any ideas on what they they plan on doing with guge & esq domains?

Humorously expanding on that:

boo = surprises

eat = gluttony

esq = lawyers

page = egocentricity

Re: Root Zone Database

#19

Post by timbowhite »

purephase wrote: post #3

This is a crazy list. Great to see it all in one place though. I don't pay that much attention to the domain registration space any more, but has the explosion of TLDs achieved the goal of reducing .com cash runs? It certainly seems like other TLDs have reached a level of acceptance, but my experience is not reflective of the majority of users. Also, it's crazy to see TLDs with other languages. Very cool, and not sur…

Same list with filtering and retail pricing from ~50 registrars: https://tld-list.com

Disclosure: I made tld-list.com, so this comment is a shameless plug.

Re: Root Zone Database

#20

Post by dsl »

koolba wrote: post #17
robalfonso wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do see a business case for not selling. .canon for example - you could provide every device with its own domain ie xhshe3u45.canon etc. So there are some cases where it does make sense.

You can do that already with uuid.cam.canon.com. At best you save a few characters.

Never co-host real applications and user controlled sites on the same root domain. You're just asking for a neverending stream of problems. (This is why everything ends up on googleusercontent.com and friends instead of google.com)
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