ok , so DPRK is installing spyware on tablets that are sold in DPRK. Reading this article, it occurs to me that it's not very different than the surveillance that the NSA is performing on US Citizens, except the NSA is smarter about it and taps the network access, at the network provider.
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#12I prefer the version "not all that glitters is gold", otherwise it sounds like gold, which glitters, is not gold. Interestingly in Spanish both versions are also popular.
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#13ok , so DPRK is installing spyware on tablets that are sold in DPRK. Reading this article, it occurs to me that it's not very different than the surveillance that the NSA is performing on US Citizens, except the NSA is smarter about it and taps the network access, at the network provider.
The NSA isn't attempting to control what you do on your devices in any way.
As horrible as it is, the censorship provides a means of protection for the end user. In the US we just let people access things, and then prosecute/persecute, them accordingly.
With the above said-- I'd still prefer to be in the US to the DPRK any day of the week, month, year, or century.
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#14ok , so DPRK is installing spyware on tablets that are sold in DPRK. Reading this article, it occurs to me that it's not very different than the surveillance that the NSA is performing on US Citizens, except the NSA is smarter about it and taps the network access, at the network provider.
Are you joking? We couldn't even have this conversation on North Korean devices. As bad as the NSA might be, this is on a completely different level.
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#15The one good, albeit tragic, thing about the existence of North Korea is that it serves as a constant reminder of what society can become if we're not vigilant about educating each generation about the dangers of certain ideologies and modes of social organization.
I think we should educate each generation on the influence of power on people, the benefits and drawbacks of democracy, care for one's fellow man, the societal structure of capitalism, among other things.
Edit: preferably via Priestly, Orwell, Wilde, Bernard Shaw and H.G Wells :)
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you joking? We couldn't even have this conversation on North Korean devices. As bad as the NSA might be, this is on a completely different level.
Do you have access to the dprk's intranet, or how would you know?
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#17I prefer the version "not all that glitters is gold", otherwise it sounds like gold, which glitters, is not gold. Interestingly in Spanish both versions are also popular.
The word order "All that gli[t]ters is not gold" is taken from Shakespeare ( The Merchant of Venice ), so that gives it quite a bit of staying power in English.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a big difference. A compromised device would mean that _everything_ you do is being open to surveillance. Passive taps limits the eavesdropper to rely on either the transport being unencrypted or vulnerabilities in related software. In other words, passive network surveillance will only reliably provide a limited subset of information, such as meta-data, rather then content of the payload which may or may no…
Perhaps you're not familiar with Intel's management engine?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps you're not familiar with Intel's management engine?
If you are suggesting that the IME is being used by the NSA to spy on Americans, there is no [citation needed] big enough for your comment.
EDIT: Active spying might be pushing it too far, but backdoors? It wouldn't surprise me to learn my hardware has a few backdoors.
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#20The one good, albeit tragic, thing about the existence of North Korea is that it serves as a constant reminder of what society can become if we're not vigilant about educating each generation about the dangers of certain ideologies and modes of social organization.
Can you go into more detail please? I am very much against authoritarianism and the state as a whole, though I am in favour of certain modes of social organisation some consider unorthodox. I think we should educate each generation on the influence of power on people, the benefits and drawbacks of democracy, care for one's fellow man, the societal structure of capitalism, among other things. Edit: preferably via Prie…
What's interesting about total authoritarianism is that it never stems from one person but actually depends on a whole large group of people to perpetuate the social order that makes it possible. Authoritarianism is as much a collective phenomenon as the maintaining of free elections in free countries. Once organized in a certain way, people seem to maintain that inertia of organization no matter who or what is served by that mode, interrupted in their organizational mode by revolutions that shift societies from track to track.