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Things learned from Anthony Levandowski's deposition in Waymo vs. Uber

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Re: Things learned from Anthony Levandowski's deposition in Waymo vs. Uber

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Waymo's allegations now go much deeper and further back than just Otto: * "Levandowski was deceiving Google almost from the moment it hired him to work on the Street View maps project back in 2007." * "Levandowski controlled a company called Dogwood Leasing that hired ex-Google contractor and 510 Systems engineer Asheem Linaval to use Google’s secrets to develop self-driving car technology." * "Levandowski founded ye…

How would renaming a company hide your involvement? Involvement is dealt with in the shareholder registry, not in the company name. Neither 'Odin Wave' nor 'Tyto' have any direct visual resemblance to "Levandowski', the fact that 'Odin Wave' is a partial anagram of "Levandowski" isn't reason enough to suspect involvement by any other person. (Such as Dwain Evo...). If I were looking at this sort of thing I'd start wi…

"I'd start with the cap table and look for direct or indirect participation"

I can imagine it's hard to get this kind of info, it's not that cap tables are public and sometimes they don't even exist at all, especially if there's no investors involved.

Another data point would be the registered officer(s)/manager(s) with the secretary of state, but removing himself from it would achieve the same without having to change the company name, unless he then started a company with the same name?

But yeah, I also can't see how changing a name is hiding involvement...

Re: Things learned from Anthony Levandowski's deposition in Waymo vs. Uber

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Levandowski has absolutely tarnished his own reputation. Sooner or later he will be abandoned by Uber - how could they possibly trust him if his thieving goes back a decade? - and finding employment or trust in the industry is going to be extremely difficult.

If he really made $120m from Google alone, he probably thought he was safe by that point, I mean, he must have thought through this and bought himself a private island somewhere to go to when the shit was going to hit the fan..?

Re: Things learned from Anthony Levandowski's deposition in Waymo vs. Uber

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seems Levandowski is out as head of the self-driving project at Uber, will remain in some role but recuse himself from Lidar

"Uber's self-driving car boss, Anthony Levandowski, is stepping aside amid legal fight with Waymo"

http://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-levandowski-no-longer...

Re: Things learned from Anthony Levandowski's deposition in Waymo vs. Uber

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Levandowski has absolutely tarnished his own reputation. Sooner or later he will be abandoned by Uber - how could they possibly trust him if his thieving goes back a decade? - and finding employment or trust in the industry is going to be extremely difficult.

That decade of deception netted him >$100M. I don't think he's going to fill out some online job application form.

Of course there is a pending civil suit from Waymo but what are the damages? Can't just make up a number based on the potential of self-driving cars and right now they are a mere money sink.

Re: Things learned from Anthony Levandowski's deposition in Waymo vs. Uber

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The use of OMW Corp, which is just a contract CNC machine shop, indicates the LIDAR in dispute has moving parts. It's probably just another rotating scanner. That approach is just for prototypes. Everybody serious is going with flash LIDAR or MEMS. If he'd been talking to somebody about custom GaInAs photosensor ICs, that would indicate a more advanced technology.

Could be a waveguide... not all machined parts move.

Re: Things learned from Anthony Levandowski's deposition in Waymo vs. Uber

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I'm kind of stunned at the amount of side-hustling that Levandowski seems to have been doing while at Google. How could the Google not have been aware of it, and how could it let it continue for so long?

If I were more conspiracy-minded, I'd think they let Otto happen in order to feed a poison pill to Uber... In reality, I think they were just complacent, but still :\

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The use of OMW Corp, which is just a contract CNC machine shop, indicates the LIDAR in dispute has moving parts. It's probably just another rotating scanner. That approach is just for prototypes. Everybody serious is going with flash LIDAR or MEMS. If he'd been talking to somebody about custom GaInAs photosensor ICs, that would indicate a more advanced technology.

Does MEMS count as solid state or is it also seen as a moving part?

Probably depends if the service life is in practical terms limited. Offhand I'd guess it's probably very long. MEMS accelerometers in airbag sensors have to stay within tolerances for the life of a car.

Re: Things learned from Anthony Levandowski's deposition in Waymo vs. Uber

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I'm kind of stunned at the amount of side-hustling that Levandowski seems to have been doing while at Google. How could the Google not have been aware of it, and how could it let it continue for so long? If I were more conspiracy-minded, I'd think they let Otto happen in order to feed a poison pill to Uber... In reality, I think they were just complacent, but still :\

I'm not sure if that's plausible or if I've just watched too much Silicon Valley
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