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Startups that use "the" or "get" to avoid premium domains

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Re: Startups that use "the" or "get" to avoid premium domains

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Post by btmorex »

mg1313 wrote: post #6
mg1313 wrote: post #5

Facebook.com was bought with $200,000. Isn't that a good price the original owner got?

By the way, try first to buy that domain you want to buy...before gaining traction. Gaining traction brings traffic to that owner also...thus, the price is raised because of this too.

I would think that would depend on how much money you started with. You might need to gain a little traction before you even have enough money to buy a premium domain. Even if you do have the money, spending say 5000-10000 on a domain might be a little hasty before even convincing someone that your idea should be funded.

Re: Startups that use "the" or "get" to avoid premium domains

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Post by dolphenstein »

byoung2 wrote: post #7
gacxllr9 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding was that if their domain was registered before your company name was trademarked, they have a right to that domain. I'll check out that link, though.

This one always baffled me: http://www.nissan.com/

The big banner announcing the lawsuit: Not so baffling.

Re: Startups that use "the" or "get" to avoid premium domains

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Post by ericflo »

bdickason wrote: post #10

I'm working on a startup with getmochi.com right now. IF the app launches and IF it gets popular and IF the author doesn't want to sell and IF we decide there is worthwhile business purpose to grab the original... we'll deal w/ that problem when the time comes.

Good luck on that particular domain. (I work for Mochi Media, and we weren't able to get it)

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Post by byoung2 »

dolphenstein wrote: post #12
byoung2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one always baffled me: http://www.nissan.com/

The big banner announcing the lawsuit: Not so baffling.

That is pretty obvious...it's baffling that Nissan couldn't have settled this amicably.

Re: Startups that use "the" or "get" to avoid premium domains

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Post by rick_2047 »

coryl wrote: post #8

If your the owner of a hot domain getting traffic and typeins from another brand, you have to walk a fine line with what you try to achieve. If you do want to sell it and get a payday, you have to play the negotiations right, because there is always the threat of them walking away and entering a UDRP proces. Lets say your too stubborn to know better and list your price at something incredibly high and unrealistic. In…

My guess is they should set the price as the patent trolls do. If someone has a patent and threatens to sue another company, they set the settling price at just below what it would take to fight it out in the court.

Well the domain name holders are allowed to do it only once though.

Re: Startups that use "the" or "get" to avoid premium domains

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Post by bdickason »

ericflo wrote: post #13
bdickason wrote: post #10

I'm working on a startup with getmochi.com right now. IF the app launches and IF it gets popular and IF the author doesn't want to sell and IF we decide there is worthwhile business purpose to grab the original... we'll deal w/ that problem when the time comes.

Good luck on that particular domain. (I work for Mochi Media, and we weren't able to get it)

Mochi Media is a great company!! That's a bummer that you guys weren't able to get it. Congrats on the acquisition btw :)

Re: Startups that use "the" or "get" to avoid premium domains

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Post by ericflo »

bdickason wrote: post #17
ericflo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck on that particular domain. (I work for Mochi Media, and we weren't able to get it)

Mochi Media is a great company!! That's a bummer that you guys weren't able to get it. Congrats on the acquisition btw :)

Thanks :)

Re: Startups that use "the" or "get" to avoid premium domains

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Post by _delirium »

gacxllr9 wrote: post #3
pwim wrote: post #2

If you have a trademark, you can file a domain name dispute and try and claim it that way. http://www.chillingeffects.org/domain/faq.cgi

My understanding was that if their domain was registered before your company name was trademarked, they have a right to that domain. I'll check out that link, though.

Having an earlier registration date can be overridden if a dispute panel finds that it was registered in "bad faith", though. The clearest cases are where you know about or guess an upcoming trademark registration (say, due to rumors of a merger or new product release) and then register the domain before it happens, with the sole purpose of hoping to sell it to the new trademark holder.

A few panels, though, have made the much stronger holding that you have to both register and use the domain name prior to the date of trademark registration; i.e. if all you did was domain-park it and try to sell it, it's a bad-faith registration.

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