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Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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Having bikes chained everywhere is a common sight in China and other developing countries -- even in developed countries where biking is a popular mode of transportation like the Netherlands.

This is less common in the US. I wonder if Americans will tolerate having bikes everywhere, like the Chinese or the Dutch do.

Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

#12

Having bikes chained everywhere is a common sight in China and other developing countries -- even in developed countries where biking is a popular mode of transportation like the Netherlands. This is less common in the US. I wonder if Americans will tolerate having bikes everywhere, like the Chinese or the Dutch do.

You tolerate cars everywhere, so why not?

Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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post #12

Having bikes chained everywhere is a common sight in China and other developing countries -- even in developed countries where biking is a popular mode of transportation like the Netherlands. This is less common in the US. I wonder if Americans will tolerate having bikes everywhere, like the Chinese or the Dutch do.

You tolerate cars everywhere, so why not?

Apples to oranges.

Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One RMB has buying power equal to about one USD in most situations. I strongly disagree, with one RMB in China you can only get a lighter (cheap one) in 7-11, I can't really think of anything else for that price.

For those of us that never held a USD in their hands: What would you be able to buy with a single Dollar?

For 1 USD you could buy:

1.5L water bottle

2 stamps (cheapest ones) to send 2 letters

1 liter of gas (for cars)

About 2/3rd of one McDonald's hamburger

About 2/3rd of one avocado

Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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Having bikes chained everywhere is a common sight in China and other developing countries -- even in developed countries where biking is a popular mode of transportation like the Netherlands. This is less common in the US. I wonder if Americans will tolerate having bikes everywhere, like the Chinese or the Dutch do.

It is not everywhere per say. There are restrictions saying where you can put your bikes. There are designated places in cities where bikes are allowed. For example, in San Francisco, there are only certain places where you can park your bikes.

Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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Wonderful run down on the bike sharing situation in China. In regards to the notion that 1 RMB per half hour is cheap, I would say it is fair. One RMB has buying power equal to about one USD in most situations.

> One RMB has buying power equal to about one USD in most situations. I strongly disagree, with one RMB in China you can only get a lighter (cheap one) in 7-11, I can't really think of anything else for that price.

In the USA if I need a quick breakfast I grab a bagel with a spread for about $3; in China I will grab a noodle bowl for 3 RMB or a couple baozi for 2 RMB each.

Other points I use to come up with my recommendation that outside Beijing and Shanghai you treat 1 USD to be equal to 1 to 2 RMB.

Bus Ride - $2, RMB 1-3 Quick lunch - $8-15, RMB 10-20 Beer at a basic bar - $6-8, RMB 8-12 Beer at store: $1-2, RMB 2-4

Of course this is for domestic products in both countries. Imports cost more and follow exchange rate. For example, in China imports are usually exchange price + 25% import tax (electronics, cars).

Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You tolerate cars everywhere, so why not?

Apples to oranges.

Its a fair comparison. Where I live many roads have parallel parking available, were people leave their cars in public. Since a single car spot can house maybe 10 bikes, a 10% impact on available car parking could allow all drivers the option to bike.

Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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Having bikes chained everywhere is a common sight in China and other developing countries -- even in developed countries where biking is a popular mode of transportation like the Netherlands. This is less common in the US. I wonder if Americans will tolerate having bikes everywhere, like the Chinese or the Dutch do.

It is not everywhere per say. There are restrictions saying where you can put your bikes. There are designated places in cities where bikes are allowed. For example, in San Francisco, there are only certain places where you can park your bikes.

America: where you can park your car wherever you want (and laws are set up to mandate construction of parking access for new buildings), but parking your bike is limited to specific areas.

Just in case there's anyone still harboring the illusion that the auto/petroleum industry isn't thoroughly dominant in US culture.

Re: Sharing bikes in Shanghai

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not everywhere per say. There are restrictions saying where you can put your bikes. There are designated places in cities where bikes are allowed. For example, in San Francisco, there are only certain places where you can park your bikes.

America: where you can park your car wherever you want (and laws are set up to mandate construction of parking access for new buildings), but parking your bike is limited to specific areas. Just in case there's anyone still harboring the illusion that the auto/petroleum industry isn't thoroughly dominant in US culture.

That's absolute nonsense. I can't park my car on a sidewalk. I can't park my car in the middle of a park on the grass.

Sure, there's no doubt that cars still dominate in the US but yours is a hysterically fallacious comparison.

Additionally I find that bike parking is literally never enforced unless you're directly inconveniencing someone who then calls it in.

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