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First YouTube now Google being banned in Turkey

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Re: First YouTube now Google being banned in Turkey

#11

The main problem here is not the offending video or else, the main problem is there is a monopoly in Turkish internet backbone and youtube users in Turkey use half of the total bandwidth , They dont want to improve their backbone so they are covering their behinds by banning the site with the most traffic. It's not about politics it's about money :) And believe me I know this is my job.

This is utterly ridiculous. But in the same time you have a bit right here. First of all, these blockages are ordered by a law no 5651. They are mostly ordered and applied by judges via isps. Some of the blockages are not based on judge jurisdiction but by government organisation telecommunication and communication precidency. Ridiculous thing is they are full ip based level 3 or level 7 dns-ip diversion blockages. So by blocking a ip blocks they are also blocking "innocent by law" applications or sites. Virtual hosting like same ip different applications are not considered by law or by isp's. (well main isp responsible is Turk Telecom Net cause they have internet monopoly in Turkey). The thing you are right is they have accidentally the whole internet! By blocking google ips. And I do not believe TTnet has this much idiot engineers or admins. They sure have some background agenda by making these "mistakes"

Re: First YouTube now Google being banned in Turkey

#12

The main problem here is not the offending video or else, the main problem is there is a monopoly in Turkish internet backbone and youtube users in Turkey use half of the total bandwidth , They dont want to improve their backbone so they are covering their behinds by banning the site with the most traffic. It's not about politics it's about money :) And believe me I know this is my job.

I wish I could believe this, but this is totally bullshit.

Can you explain what your job is?

Situation in Turkey is just smaller version of China's Big Firewall that's it. It's not about bandwidth :)

Have you checked how many small websites already blocked in Turkey? Numbers are about 6000. At least 5000 of them not even in the Alexa 1000 I can assure you. Youtube is just one of them because there is constantly some random video in it which Turkish government doesn't like, or some imbecile from Turkey doesn't like and sue.

So let me clarify, it's not about BANDWITH. Take a look : http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2009/09/22/at-least-6000-websites-cen...

Re: First YouTube now Google being banned in Turkey

#13

I live in Turkey and there's an online rumor about how the prime minister orchestrated this ban as some people were talking about his exploits in google groups etc. I can't tell if this is the real reason for the ban, but I can affirm you that if you want to have a time travel to the past (dark ages) you can visit Turkey anytime you want.

If president wanted to get rid of Google Groups he'd just sue and get it closed as they've done to Youtube. I'm pretty sure they don't need to come up with some genius plan to close Google Groups, and why do you think closing Google Groups any harder than closing Youtube?

Those rumours sounds like quite wrong.

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