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Don't Fly During Ramadan (2013)

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Re: Don't Fly During Ramadan (2013)

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Post by revelation »

jacquesm wrote: post #9
Cyph0n wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, all it does is dial up the suspicion level.

Then why offer the option to opt out?

Because it's theater, the options decisions and actions are not motivated by data or reason.

If any of it was, the whole lot of them would be flipping burgers.

Re: Don't Fly During Ramadan (2013)

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Post by tuna-piano »

merpnderp wrote: post #2

Have people really asked for a place to pray while flying on a plane? Why would JetBlue ask such a weird question?

Definitely, for sure both jews and muslims. The "following instructions from female flight attendants" thing I would guess also isn't out of the blue... maybe the airline has had experience with people not following female flight attendant rules.

Re: Don't Fly During Ramadan (2013)

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Post by burger_moon »

ajmurmann wrote: post #4

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6258422

That last discussion was a shit show of people one-upping each other in the oppression olympics. It seems like as soon as you compare one persons experience to being not as bad or worse than another persons the entire thread devolves into terrible accusations and comparisons.

Re: Don't Fly During Ramadan (2013)

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Post by jordigh »

epmaybe wrote: post #7
jordigh wrote: post #5

I have to fly today, from Canada to Europe. I probably shouldn't be reading stories like these before a flight, but I did, top to bottom, transfixed by the details. I hope I manage to make it through airport "security" without any problem. I'll smile, I'll cooperate. Hell, maybe I'll even step into the radiation machine for the first time in my life if I have to (I also always have opted out). I hate how scary this w…

Sorry you have to go through that. Also, what radiation machine are you referring to? The millimeter wave scanner?

Yes. Besides the uncertainty about the harmful effects of that radiation, there's also the issue of how they collect and pass around the naked images.

Re: Don't Fly During Ramadan (2013)

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Post by jtchang »

It's sad how much flying has changed since 9/11. Younger individuals will never realize how much easier it was to get through security. I'm sad at how he was treated and it's something that needs to be changed. It's not like treating anyone badly is going to result in more information.

Re: Don't Fly During Ramadan (2013)

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Post by akud »

ajmurmann wrote: post #4

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6258422

> At the same time, the U.S. is rapidly degenerating into something that isn't quite the sinister oppressive regime, but getting close to the point where it could become one, if a wrong leader gets elected. It's scary.

Seems prescient

Re: Don't Fly During Ramadan (2013)

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Post by a3n »

tuna-piano wrote: post #10

Do you believe the government entered his apartment? It seems at least somewhat likely. They see the sparse apartment and picture of some religious thing on the wall, and it freaks them out. They take the picture back to their office to figure out what the hell it is. I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff, but it seems like they could have used a "sneak and peek" warrant, as authorized in the patriot act. https://ww…

> Do you believe the government entered his apartment?

Yes, I do believe that, because it's plausible, and because they asked him, when facing his apartment building, which side the parking lot is on. Which suggests that someone was there who could verify the answer.

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