There has to be more to the story here because the unemployment rate in Stockton is 9.5%. So what's the disconnect between people not working, and employers who are apparently trying to pay more and aren't getting workers?
Wages rise on California farms, Americans still don’t want the job
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#12> Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job
No. Californians don't want the jobs. Americans live in more than just CA, I know a lot of people in CA find this hard to believe but there is a whole world outside of Sillycon Valley.
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#13Farming is one of the most dangerous jobs in the US. There are reasons aside from money that people choose to pursue other careers.
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#15Well then obviously wages haven't risen enough. For an extreme example, pay me 200$ an hour and I'll quit my web dev job and do it myself.
Of course, it's the most basic rule of markets. Currently, they're paying unskilled data entry/retail clerk wages, eventually they'll reach semi-skilled, toil in the fields wages. They started at sit in a chair next to a door reading a book, and once every hour or two when somebody arrives, press a button to open the door wages.
I'm not sure what element of this story is supposed to be negative.
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#16Well then obviously wages haven't risen enough. For an extreme example, pay me 200$ an hour and I'll quit my web dev job and do it myself.
Ok, but that would mean that the price of produce would need to grow nearly just as much. And then nobody would buy it. So at some level of price of labor it's better for the producer to close the shop and take the losses instead of rising wages even more and risking more losses due to crashing demand.
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#17Well then obviously wages haven't risen enough. For an extreme example, pay me 200$ an hour and I'll quit my web dev job and do it myself.
Although it's obviously not going to happen, even if it did you couldn't afford buying that same product as a direct result of the increase in cost.
The people picking chardonnay grapes often aren't the target consumers to begin with, but your core point is correct, wage inflation usually leads to price inflation, but it doesn't always follow that therefore the product becomes unaffordable.
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#18Immigration laws seem likely to be enforced, illegal alien labor scabs self-deport in advance, and wages rise. Not hard to understand.
> illegal alien labor scabs self-deport in advance, and wages rise
You know when there was a bug in the codebase so hard to fix and for so many years that developers started building on top of that and considered the bug to be 'not really a bug' but more of a design decision.
And then some new hire comes along and fixes it without a deep understanding of the dependencies and breaks existing functionality. And then the dev budget for 'fixing' everything goes sky high?
Guess what will happen to the price of produce?
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#19> Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job No. Californians don't want the jobs. Americans live in more than just CA, I know a lot of people in CA find this hard to believe but there is a whole world outside of Sillycon Valley.
The article indicates a 15-year trend of rising wages, yet we don't see American farmhands flocking to CA, so it seems like a fair headline to me.
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#20> Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job No. Californians don't want the jobs. Americans live in more than just CA, I know a lot of people in CA find this hard to believe but there is a whole world outside of Sillycon Valley.
I think you bring up a good point. The people who need jobs and the people that need to fill jobs live in different places. American mobility is at an all time low for our technological era. How do we get the unemployed Midwesterners into Napa Valley?