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Intel buying Mobileye for up to $16B to expand in self-driving tech

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Re: Intel buying Mobileye for up to $16B to expand in self-driving tech

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$16B is a great price for Mobileye's team, but I am not sure it is the best move for Intel. But I guess Intel will try to sell package deals to car markers and thus use this to try to keep NVIDIA and ARM from locking up the in-car market. Thus it is a strategic move on Intel's part to fend off competitors rather than reflective of the intrinsic value of Mobileye. BTW what was Mobileye's revenue last year and profit m…

There is no such thing as intrinsic value. There is price and price ($16B) is determined by the market. Talking about PE and multiples is pointless for tech companies where synergies and rapid adoption/changes are common.

>There is no such thing as intrinsic value

Intrinsic value usually refers to the present (discounted) value of future earnings.

>There is price and price ($16B) is determined by the market.

How is it determined if all valuation is supposed to be pointless?

>Talking about PE and multiples is pointless for tech companies where synergies and rapid adoption/changes are common

For a public company that has existed for almost two decades it absolutely makes sense to consider revenue multiples among other factors.

It may well be that the value of the company in Intel's hands is worth more than it is worth for other, non-strategic, investors. I agree that there is a lot of potential variability in tech, but that doesn't mean any fantasy price is right just because some people buy some shares at that price (which is what market prices mean)

Re: Intel buying Mobileye for up to $16B to expand in self-driving tech

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$16B is a great price for Mobileye's team, but I am not sure it is the best move for Intel. But I guess Intel will try to sell package deals to car markers and thus use this to try to keep NVIDIA and ARM from locking up the in-car market. Thus it is a strategic move on Intel's part to fend off competitors rather than reflective of the intrinsic value of Mobileye. BTW what was Mobileye's revenue last year and profit m…

They're buying a story for their stock. "our stock is our product" and all that.

Re: Intel buying Mobileye for up to $16B to expand in self-driving tech

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What's Intels play here? I'm glad the mobileye team get some nice purim bonus but we'll see in couple of years if Intel won't kill the product (and the team)...

A proven platform to compete with NVIDIA in the autonomous car market.

Re: Intel buying Mobileye for up to $16B to expand in self-driving tech

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What's Intels play here? I'm glad the mobileye team get some nice purim bonus but we'll see in couple of years if Intel won't kill the product (and the team)...

Diversification. They see the writing on the wall for their CPU business and it's associated margins. They need other high-margin highly in demand tech products to go after.

Furthermore, I'm guessing x86 has almost no representation in the self-driving car space at the moment. They're probably hoping to change that.

Re: Intel buying Mobileye for up to $16B to expand in self-driving tech

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Intel has made acquisitions of almost $40 billion in the past couple of years. It will be interesting to see if they can make this money back as competition becomes more fierce in the PC and server markets because of AMD and Qualcomm.

They have 95%+ marketshare in server chips. They have an enormous manufacturing advantage. Even though they charge so much for their chips if they feel threatened by Ryzen they can just lower the price of their chips to Ryzen prices because they have a manufacturing advantage. It will just hurt their margins. 40-50% margins forever seem pretty absurd from a pure economics perspective.

Re: Intel buying Mobileye for up to $16B to expand in self-driving tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no such thing as intrinsic value. There is price and price ($16B) is determined by the market. Talking about PE and multiples is pointless for tech companies where synergies and rapid adoption/changes are common.

>There is no such thing as intrinsic value Intrinsic value usually refers to the present (discounted) value of future earnings. >There is price and price ($16B) is determined by the market. How is it determined if all valuation is supposed to be pointless? >Talking about PE and multiples is pointless for tech companies where synergies and rapid adoption/changes are common For a public company that has existed for alm…

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Re: Intel buying Mobileye for up to $16B to expand in self-driving tech

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Mobileye was founded in 1999, a huge leap of faith to get into the self-driving technology back then.

I didn't think they were really into self-driving back then. There is a whole range of ADAS capabilities that fall short of taking control of a vehicle.
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