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North Korea’s Missile Launches Were Failing Too Often

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Re: North Korea’s Missile Launches Were Failing Too Often

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speculation as to why the rocket test have been failing? 88% failure rate is pretty dramatic.

Apparently, the prevailing theory is a program to cyber-sabotage the launch systems[0]. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/world/asia/north-korea-mi...

That seems to be a preferable approach since space lasers would require allowing NK to build a functional missile in the first place. If it is possible to sabotage the actual design at some critical point they can be prevented from creating functional missiles at all.

Re: North Korea’s Missile Launches Were Failing Too Often

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, North Korea was just waiting for the NYT reporters to give them up-to-date intel on why their launches were failing. That's really the only reporting Kim Jong Un trusts, so I hear.

They may have all sorts of suspicions at the high failure rate. Having it confirmed gives them information it would be better they didn't have.

The article discusses this, they did meet with the CIA before publishing.

The CIA will of course issue the standard Glomar response (or simply remain silent) and NK will have no more or less concrete information than they had before.

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Is it wise for reporters that discover a covert program to disrupt North Korean missile launches to disclose the information? Seems like they want the credit for breaking a significant story more than they care about the delicate and dangerous situation with a rogue country that has nuclear weapons. I suggest they STFU.

unless it really is just bad welds and this is a great way to sow discord and paranoia. psy war > cyber war > actual war.

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Is it wise for reporters that discover a covert program to disrupt North Korean missile launches to disclose the information? Seems like they want the credit for breaking a significant story more than they care about the delicate and dangerous situation with a rogue country that has nuclear weapons. I suggest they STFU.

unless it really is just bad welds and this is a great way to sow discord and paranoia. psy war > cyber war > actual war.

So then the NY Times is in bed with the CIA?

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If we look past the North Korean missile program, has the U.S. opened Pandora's box by using malware to affect another country's missile launch?

We used to talk about Stuxnet infecting Iran's underground nuclear computer systems which destabilized their centrifuges, but now we're talking about malware affecting the "left of launch" of a missile. If this is the future of stopping a potential nuclear attack from another country then is everything that used to be stable about the nuclear order now in disarray due to the "cyber age"? During the Cold War, The U.S. and the USSR knew where each other's missile were located and generally shied away from operations within the other's command and control systems for the most part.

Are we not inviting other major powers to play around in our nuclear systems? It's one thing to try and stop the North Koreans from launching a missile at California, but if the Chinese, the Russians, and the U.S. are inside each other's command and control centers, does this not undermine the mutually assured destruction doctrine? It could help make a country be so sure of its capabilities that it would be willing take a bet and never suffer any proportional retaliation.

Re: North Korea’s Missile Launches Were Failing Too Often

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Is it wise for reporters that discover a covert program to disrupt North Korean missile launches to disclose the information? Seems like they want the credit for breaking a significant story more than they care about the delicate and dangerous situation with a rogue country that has nuclear weapons. I suggest they STFU.

The article includes their justification for publishing this, in fact that is about the last third of the text. The NY Times seems to be consistent with their handling of these types of stories so then the question becomes when has harm been done by this type of investigative journalism?

Re: North Korea’s Missile Launches Were Failing Too Often

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Is it wise for reporters that discover a covert program to disrupt North Korean missile launches to disclose the information? Seems like they want the credit for breaking a significant story more than they care about the delicate and dangerous situation with a rogue country that has nuclear weapons. I suggest they STFU.

>to disclose the information

such information is disclosed by several of the missile program involved personnel every time a launch fails. They disclose it after NK security service applies their enhanced interrogation techniques so that it can be reported to the Great Beloved Leader that the spies&saboteurs who caused the failure were caught, pleaded guilty and were punished.

Re: North Korea’s Missile Launches Were Failing Too Often

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently, the prevailing theory is a program to cyber-sabotage the launch systems[0]. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/world/asia/north-korea-mi...

It also seems crazy to me that we'd be successful at sabotage 88% of the time

Well, it could be 11 agencies each being successful about 10% of the time?
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