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Health Statistics of 500 US Cities – Map and Sortable Table

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Re: Health Statistics of 500 US Cities – Map and Sortable Table

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Post by jlarocco »

digitalzombie wrote: post #7

Ugh... ESRI, is the one reason why I didn't get into Geography. I wanted get into datascience that lean toward maps but seeing the monopoly that ESRI has and no open source alternative it was clear, in my opinion, that that market growth is will be slow and the potential will not be as great. I'm leaning toward medical data and NLP now.

I don't quite understand what you're saying. Using proprietary or open source software isn't a determining factor in whether the industry using it will grow quickly or slowly. For example, most computer animation software (Maya, SoftImage, ...) is closed source, but CGI in films and TV has experienced huge growth in the last 20 years.

In any case, even though ESRI is the market leader, there's quite a bit of open source GIS software (GRSS, QGis, PostGis, etc.). Entrenched markets like that don't get "disrupted" by magic, it requires people to jump in and use the alternatives on real projects.

Re: Health Statistics of 500 US Cities – Map and Sortable Table

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Post by jlarocco »

mjevans wrote: post #10
jlarocco wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too much sugar is definitely a problem, but if obesity were solely due to sugar in "virtually all SAD based food" then everybody would be obese across the board. That's not what the data shows, though. And even if sugar were the main factor, OP's post would still be technically correct, because the underlying problem would be overeating foods with sugar, possibly in addition to overeating other foods. This may be an…

The last time I bought 'healthy' food, I couldn't use it before it's shelf life expired. Smaller portions are prohibitively expensive (it costs less for me to get something that looks better, tastes better, and has more variety going out to eat). It also isn't cost effective for me to make the time to make my own food, even ignoring the cost of the ingredients; aside from simple things that use mostly non-perishable…

Are those not all personal choices? You're choosing cheap, easy, and convenient over healthy.

IME eating healthy isn't particularly expensive or difficult, but it does require more planning and consideration than just eating what's convenient.

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Post by cloverich »

jlarocco wrote: post #8
Selfcommit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are making an assumption that obesity is because people overeat, and that "moving around" is somehow a counter to that. Have you considered the amount of sugar found in virtually all SAD based food could be the problem? (Setting aside the movement debate and the false premise it creates about energy in vs energy out).

Too much sugar is definitely a problem, but if obesity were solely due to sugar in "virtually all SAD based food" then everybody would be obese across the board. That's not what the data shows, though. And even if sugar were the main factor, OP's post would still be technically correct, because the underlying problem would be overeating foods with sugar, possibly in addition to overeating other foods. This may be an…

It saddens me that you are being down voted. There's plenty of reasonable debate to be had around how different types of foods make you feel, whether that leads to over / under-eating, allergies, etc. But the premise that one's total calorie count is the most important (and perhaps only) factor in determining weight is not a radical thought.

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Post by tomjen3 »

mjevans wrote: post #10
jlarocco wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too much sugar is definitely a problem, but if obesity were solely due to sugar in "virtually all SAD based food" then everybody would be obese across the board. That's not what the data shows, though. And even if sugar were the main factor, OP's post would still be technically correct, because the underlying problem would be overeating foods with sugar, possibly in addition to overeating other foods. This may be an…

The last time I bought 'healthy' food, I couldn't use it before it's shelf life expired. Smaller portions are prohibitively expensive (it costs less for me to get something that looks better, tastes better, and has more variety going out to eat). It also isn't cost effective for me to make the time to make my own food, even ignoring the cost of the ingredients; aside from simple things that use mostly non-perishable…

There is nothing wrong with buying in bulk, and cooking in bulk is a good way to save money and time: just put the rest in the freezer.

Re: Health Statistics of 500 US Cities – Map and Sortable Table

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Post by horsetranqs »

jlarocco wrote: post #11
digitalzombie wrote: post #7

Ugh... ESRI, is the one reason why I didn't get into Geography. I wanted get into datascience that lean toward maps but seeing the monopoly that ESRI has and no open source alternative it was clear, in my opinion, that that market growth is will be slow and the potential will not be as great. I'm leaning toward medical data and NLP now.

I don't quite understand what you're saying. Using proprietary or open source software isn't a determining factor in whether the industry using it will grow quickly or slowly. For example, most computer animation software (Maya, SoftImage, ...) is closed source, but CGI in films and TV has experienced huge growth in the last 20 years. In any case, even though ESRI is the market leader, there's quite a bit of open sou…

ESRI has a lock on the government GIS business. Why? Governments have byzantine procurement processes designed to prevent self-dealing and malfeasance. This is a problem, because from whom will you procure PostGIS? From nobody. So you can't really use it on a government contract.

Re: Health Statistics of 500 US Cities – Map and Sortable Table

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Post by sarcher »

digitalzombie wrote: post #7

Ugh... ESRI, is the one reason why I didn't get into Geography. I wanted get into datascience that lean toward maps but seeing the monopoly that ESRI has and no open source alternative it was clear, in my opinion, that that market growth is will be slow and the potential will not be as great. I'm leaning toward medical data and NLP now.

jlarocco laid out a few of the open source options (all of which are quite good at this stage), and when it comes to web mapping I would say ESRI is well matched by Mapbox, CARTO, etc.

If you're looking for a specific non-ESRI tool, post about it and I'm sure you'll get some interesting feedback.

Re: Health Statistics of 500 US Cities – Map and Sortable Table

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Post by killjoywashere »

dvdhnt wrote: post #6
Selfcommit wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are making an assumption that obesity is because people overeat, and that "moving around" is somehow a counter to that. Have you considered the amount of sugar found in virtually all SAD based food could be the problem? (Setting aside the movement debate and the false premise it creates about energy in vs energy out).

This. There was a study I'm struggling to find at the moment, that I saw via HN, that claimed childhood obesity is more dependent on what people eat than when they eat it or how much.

Childhood obesity, like all obesity, is most definitely about calories in vs calories out. However, it is also true that fructose (one half of sucrose), doesn't induce any of the body's satiety responses.

A second issue is salt, which induces thirst, which induced consumption of fluids. Solving that problem with water drops the osmolarity, which decreases the satiety signals by way of diluting the interstitium. Solving the thirst problem with beer, soda, milk, etc, maintains the osmolarity of the interstitium, but does so by way of increasing the blood glucose.

Overall, it's 90% eat less, 10% exercise more. But the exercise more is also critically important for increasing norepinephrine, which improves focus, willpower, concentration, whatever the amalgam of those words are that represents the effect of norepi.

Having seen really horrible outcomes in kids, please, please, give up this idea that calories in doesn't need to equal calories out. It does. Always.

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