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Japan's Universities Are Failing

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Re: Japan's Universities Are Failing

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal »

coolandsmartrr wrote: post #6
ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #2

Why would the Japanese look to a London based publication for validation of their rankings among Asian universities? This sort of thing is not an exact science and it's a shame Asia (I know India does this a lot) continues to hold the West (UK/USA specifically) as some great arbitrator and moderator of the world when they may have their own vested interests about things - and of course vice versa.

> London based It's US based. Perhaps you're thinking of The Economist ?

See the first paragraph of the article, the rankings are by Times Higher Education.

Re: Japan's Universities Are Failing

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Post by tsul »

I’ve always heard that uni is a bit of a formality in Japan, and that most career-minded individuals expect to be trained and mentored on the job when they enter the corporate world.

Not sure how true that is or if the article touches on that, since it’s paywalled.

Re: Japan's Universities Are Failing

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Post by azinman2 »

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #7
azinman2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question should be does that report have merit, not which nationality produced it.

How would you measure if it has merit? No one can know for sure if the report has merit, it's their opinion based on their metrics and what they consider to be important properties to measure, like I said it's not an exact science.

I don't know anything about the report, but one would hope that these metrics are published and have some verifiability. One could create empirical metrics based on research output, monetization, patents, keynote speeches, citation counts, etc. It doesn't have to be so fuzzy.

My point is not to be knee-jerk about the nationality source, but rather look at the claims and evaluate them. If they previously ranked Tokyo University so highly -- should we throw that out too?

Re: Japan's Universities Are Failing

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Post by yammajr »

forbiddenlake wrote: post #5
yammajr wrote: post #3

Looks like an interesting article after the first couple of paragraphs, but the paywall makes it hard to say really.

Click "Web" at the top, and click the non-Hacker News link

Thanks for pointing that out, it's a useful feature, but that doesn't get around the paywall here.

Re: Japan's Universities Are Failing

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Post by dwg »

tsul wrote: post #13

I’ve always heard that uni is a bit of a formality in Japan, and that most career-minded individuals expect to be trained and mentored on the job when they enter the corporate world. Not sure how true that is or if the article touches on that, since it’s paywalled.

Generally true to my knowledge, but I believe University of Tokyo and a few other top universities are an exception, especially in the sciences.

Re: Japan's Universities Are Failing

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Post by TorKlingberg »

yammajr wrote: post #15
forbiddenlake wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Click "Web" at the top, and click the non-Hacker News link

Thanks for pointing that out, it's a useful feature, but that doesn't get around the paywall here.

Try opening the 'web' link in a different browser, maybe in private mode. That worked for me.

Re: Japan's Universities Are Failing

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Post by yammajr »

TorKlingberg wrote: post #19
yammajr wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for pointing that out, it's a useful feature, but that doesn't get around the paywall here.

Try opening the 'web' link in a different browser, maybe in private mode. That worked for me.

No go on incognito, but switching browsers did it. Thanks
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