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Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Re: Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Post by jl6 »

nolok wrote: post #4
Zenst wrote: post #2

It is good that AMD now look like they will finally be pushing Intel out of complacency. ECC should be the norm, not the exception and hopefully this will help drive the price of ECC memory down so that happens.

Finally ? AMD used to always support ECC, I believe their latest consumer chips didn't but that was mostly because it was never used because most motherboards makers don't want to add its support to their non-server variants. Because why would they ? The very people for who that matters are those who have the needs and funds to buy the more expensive variant. Same reasoning as to why Intel isn't adding it to their de…

Enterprises are also professional cost cutters, so if AMD can provide enterprise-class features for less, then they will find a market.

Re: Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Post by [deleted] »

nolok wrote: post #3

Not much of a surprise coming from AMD, but it will most likely end up like their previous generations of CPU: most motherboards won't support ECC memory, forcing you to buy specialized hardware anyway. And if you're buying specialized hardware, you might as well go all the way.

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Re: Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Post by vegabook »

Who needs a Xeon now? The only chink in the armour here is the 64GB max, which admittedly is bad for the science/Machine learning folks, but the vast majority of these chips is used for databases, web serving, app serving, etc, for which these ECC-enabled Ryzens are a game changer on price. Cluster them up on premises or in cloud, and you're looking at a total winner, especially that the 16GB dimms are still much cheaper than the 32s so you'll be able to create very decent servers on the cheap.

Re: Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Post by masklinn »

jl6 wrote: post #11
nolok wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finally ? AMD used to always support ECC, I believe their latest consumer chips didn't but that was mostly because it was never used because most motherboards makers don't want to add its support to their non-server variants. Because why would they ? The very people for who that matters are those who have the needs and funds to buy the more expensive variant. Same reasoning as to why Intel isn't adding it to their de…

Enterprises are also professional cost cutters, so if AMD can provide enterprise-class features for less, then they will find a market.

That's demonstrably not true, AMD has supported ECC more or less across the board since the Athlon64.

Enterprises may be professional cost cutters, but before that they're professional ass coverers, otherwise Oracle would have died 20 years ago.

Re: Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Post by phkahler »

I disagree with the title, I don't think it says all Ryzen will support ECC.

>>4 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz ECC and non-ECC, Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory

That looks like a motherboard spec - because it is. And it supports Ryzen processors of various types. I read that as: One CPU supports "ECC and non-ECC", another CPU specifies "Non-ECC". At least that's how I read it. Otherwise there is no reason to put non-ECC in there twice.

Re: Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Post by nagvx »

anoother wrote: post #10
ioquatix wrote: post #6

That's awesome, I think this is the perfect CPU for my next ZFS NAS. If you try to find ECC support in Intel's lineup, it's hard to find much. Either the low end Pentium, or the high end Xeon ($$$).

And I believe they've removed it from the latest-gen Pentiums

This is not true. VT-d and ECC were thought to be removed, but these features were simply unlisted, not removed. Intel Ark now shows them as available, e.g:

http://ark.intel.com/products/97143/Intel-Pentium-Processor-...

Re: Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Post by 8draco8 »

vegabook wrote: post #14

Who needs a Xeon now? The only chink in the armour here is the 64GB max, which admittedly is bad for the science/Machine learning folks, but the vast majority of these chips is used for databases, web serving, app serving, etc, for which these ECC-enabled Ryzens are a game changer on price. Cluster them up on premises or in cloud, and you're looking at a total winner, especially that the 16GB dimms are still much che…

ECC support in CPU is just a half of success. Now somebody have to convince motherboard manufacturers to enable it. It was the same thing with previous AMD CPUs. They all had ECC support but there was virtually no motherboards that would support it.

Re: Asus Prime X370-PRO specs suggest AMD Ryzen processors may support ECC memory

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Post by andy_ppp »

Can someone tell me how many errors over the past 10 years or so would have been fixed by ECC memory. I've no idea at all how much better it would be and what the current error rate it prevents is? It sounds more nice to have than vital? Is there a performance cost to it at all?
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