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Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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Trading privacy for a false sense of security, are we?

Trading privacy? Can you elaborate?

The idea of storing sensitive data at one of the most data hungry company in the world "for security", doesn't sound like it came from a genius. I thought I was pretty clear earlier?

Moving FOSS into the cloud as a SaS sounds kinda regressive to me...

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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I've been out of touch with Mongo for a while, but when did it stop being common practice to just hide :27017 behind a firewall with only your app's DB access layer (or, at most, a few nodes in the local subnet) talking to it?

Probably around the same time ops were deemed useless :) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13644789

I saw that chain too. I guess I do devops differently. Since I'm bootstrapping I don't have money for an ops person. So I've set about learning ufw, let's encrypt, nginx/tls termination to a service only accepting local connections to the port, etc. I see devops as the developer learning the ops side to take responsibility for the whole stack.

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trading privacy? Can you elaborate?

The idea of storing sensitive data at one of the most data hungry company in the world "for security", doesn't sound like it came from a genius. I thought I was pretty clear earlier? Moving FOSS into the cloud as a SaS sounds kinda regressive to me...

If you can explain your fears perhaps we would understand, because I still don't know why using Azure is a privacy trade? Does Microsoft "steal" the data?

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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AWS needs something like this. The missing piece for the AWS serverless story is a database that is suitable for writing real world applications. DynamoDB is far from suitable for that task, which leaves AWS serverless with no good database.

DynamoDB would be pretty close if it just allowed null values.

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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post #14

AWS needs something like this. The missing piece for the AWS serverless story is a database that is suitable for writing real world applications. DynamoDB is far from suitable for that task, which leaves AWS serverless with no good database.

> DynamoDB is far from suitable for that task

why?

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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post #14

AWS needs something like this. The missing piece for the AWS serverless story is a database that is suitable for writing real world applications. DynamoDB is far from suitable for that task, which leaves AWS serverless with no good database.

DynamoDB would be pretty close if it just allowed null values.

Actually I guess the query language and indexing is pretty limiting too.

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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post #14

AWS needs something like this. The missing piece for the AWS serverless story is a database that is suitable for writing real world applications. DynamoDB is far from suitable for that task, which leaves AWS serverless with no good database.

DynamoDB would be pretty close if it just allowed null values.

DynamoDB is effectively useless for querying, except perhaps for some sort of highly specialised application able to fit within the DynamoDB strange and arcane query model.

What sort of database is effectively useless for querying?

Also they need to ditch the really, really confusiong and limiting scaling model. For a database that advertises scaling as one of its key strengths, DynamoDB sure has a bad scaling story.

Re: Dear MongoDB users, we welcome you in Azure DocumentDB

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea of storing sensitive data at one of the most data hungry company in the world "for security", doesn't sound like it came from a genius. I thought I was pretty clear earlier? Moving FOSS into the cloud as a SaS sounds kinda regressive to me...

If you can explain your fears perhaps we would understand, because I still don't know why using Azure is a privacy trade? Does Microsoft "steal" the data?

It happens all the time, and also; when using proprietary software you never know, and that's the big issue (for me). I never use SaS or MS-products (I only use FOSS) so I don't fear for myself.
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