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Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

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Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

#11
This paper is available through Google scholar if you search for "CCS 16 password WiFi" or click here: https://www.a51.nl/sites/default/files/pdf/p1068-li.pdf

I've been a part of a similar paper that detected exact keystrokes. This one seems to build on a similar idea. The thing to keep in mind is that these systems need user and environment specific training. That is if the user is changed or the user or something in the environment moves, the system needs to retrain.

Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

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post #2

Direct link to PDF without the (infuriating) popups/overlays: http://delivery.acm.org/10.1145/2980000/2978397/p1068-li.pdf

popped by the comments just to find something like this (but the link doesnt work)! thanks anyway!

Here is the ACM link: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2978397

Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

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post #8

Moral of this (and every other) story: Never, ever connect to a free, public wifi. ETA: This was meant to be glib, given the frequency of such stories seen on HN, and the many children below are quite correctly pointing out that the real moral is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13645694

It would seem that that's not the moral of the story: it looks like your device doesn't even have to connect to the wifi. It appears that this is more like using wifi as radar to detect finger movements.

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Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

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See also: detecting and motion tracking people behind walls, with the ability to recognise specific people ( also using wifi ).

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/28/9625636/rf-capture-mit-wi...

Of particular interest: It can determine breathing patterns and heart rate.

Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

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Some weeks back I read a post here about detecting people in rooms by measuring how the physical body interferes with the wifi signals. I wouldn't have imagined someone could extract useful information at this small of a scale. wow!

This one!

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/28/9625636/rf-capture-mit-wi...

It can detect people and track their movements behind walls, and tell different people apart.

It can also measure breathing patterns and heart rate.

Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

#17

Moral of this (and every other) story: Never, ever connect to a free, public wifi. ETA: This was meant to be glib, given the frequency of such stories seen on HN, and the many children below are quite correctly pointing out that the real moral is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13645694

If you're that paranoid, you might want to also keep in mind that it would be far more reliable to shoulder surf via video surveillance. As a bonus, it even works with radios disabled.

Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would seem that that's not the moral of the story: it looks like your device doesn't even have to connect to the wifi. It appears that this is more like using wifi as radar to detect finger movements.

So then its probably a pretty good idea to randomize the number keypad for the lock screen, which I do. Does this defeat that, I can't think of a way it does..

How do you randomize the keypad? Is it possible on iPhone?

Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

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post #8

Moral of this (and every other) story: Never, ever connect to a free, public wifi. ETA: This was meant to be glib, given the frequency of such stories seen on HN, and the many children below are quite correctly pointing out that the real moral is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13645694

It would seem that that's not the moral of the story: it looks like your device doesn't even have to connect to the wifi. It appears that this is more like using wifi as radar to detect finger movements.

I think that wifi devices only send a sounding packet when requested from the AP. You need to know you are capturing a sounding packet to determine CSI (or have it send explicitly by the receiver aka explicit beamforming).

Re: Inferring Your Mobile Phone Password via WiFi Signals

#20
post #8

Moral of this (and every other) story: Never, ever connect to a free, public wifi. ETA: This was meant to be glib, given the frequency of such stories seen on HN, and the many children below are quite correctly pointing out that the real moral is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13645694

It would seem that that's not the moral of the story: it looks like your device doesn't even have to connect to the wifi. It appears that this is more like using wifi as radar to detect finger movements.

Real moral of the story: Read the article before commenting.
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