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In Support of Free Speech

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Re: In Support of Free Speech

#12
Being liberal doesn't mean that you block everything that the other side is doing. It's also about being open and accepting to others and their views. Shopify did the right thing here.

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#14

I support their views on free speech, but as a matter of conscience, principle, and (more cynically) optics, they should donate all proceeds they make off of Breitbart or neo-nazi orders to civil liberties/rights organisations like the ACLU (which they mention in their post).

Sometimes I wonder if they might not literally be Nazis.

Re: In Support of Free Speech

#15

I support their views on free speech, but as a matter of conscience, principle, and (more cynically) optics, they should donate all proceeds they make off of Breitbart or neo-nazi orders to civil liberties/rights organisations like the ACLU (which they mention in their post).

Should Apple donate the profits of every Macbook sold to neo-Nazis? How do you identify them? Don't censor people and play into their victim complex. Treat them the exact same way you would anyone else and if you can't convince them through argument that they are wrong then you have nothing to stand on.

What? Shopify can identify which profit comes through which account

Re: In Support of Free Speech

#16
I don't like Breitbart, but I believe Shopify is making the right call, for a long list of reasons.

Instead of focusing on Breitbart and giving it undue attention, we should all be listening to each other. Not listening-to-reply, but listening-to-understand.

Re: In Support of Free Speech

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I support their views on free speech, but as a matter of conscience, principle, and (more cynically) optics, they should donate all proceeds they make off of Breitbart or neo-nazi orders to civil liberties/rights organisations like the ACLU (which they mention in their post).

Should Apple donate the profits of every Macbook sold to neo-Nazis? How do you identify them? Don't censor people and play into their victim complex. Treat them the exact same way you would anyone else and if you can't convince them through argument that they are wrong then you have nothing to stand on.

Add a checkbox to the order form. "Donate the profits from my purchase to the ACLU."

Re: In Support of Free Speech

#18
post #9

Just dont get upset when people refuse to use shopify in protest.

It is generally never free to stand for your principles. Do you want to encourage a world were people don't by harming does who do?

I would be very careful what I wished for.

Re: In Support of Free Speech

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Refusing to voluntarily engage in commerce is hardly censorship. All this post is saying is "We're totally fine with neo-Nazis, so long as we make some money from them."

A principled boycott is not censorship, it is further free expression. Shame on shopify for abandoning principles in favor of profit.

Re: In Support of Free Speech

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Good. I've never read a Breitbart article, but there are few things they could say that I would find more distasteful than censorship. Interesting editorializing of the headline on this post.

> there are few things they could say that I would find more distasteful than censorship. Perhaps being supportive of people who have called for the extermination of black people and other minorities?

Source? That's a very serious claim to not have a rock solid source backing it up.
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