Why Silicon Valley Wouldn't Work Without Immigrants
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#12Questions for Valley workers: at what point is enough enough? What will it take to pack it up and leave? Would you consider moving to a different country or returning to a home country? If so, would you continue to work for your current employer, would you look for a job in the local market, or would you found a startup?
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#13Questions for Valley workers: at what point is enough enough? What will it take to pack it up and leave? Would you consider moving to a different country or returning to a home country? If so, would you continue to work for your current employer, would you look for a job in the local market, or would you found a startup?
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Last I checked, white men still bankrolled and ran the show and held most of the tech jobs. What was your experience?
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#14I'll take a stab at a response:
- The argument against H1B isn't an argument against immigration or immigrants, it is an argument against corporate welfare. This pretty much negates all of the points the author makes (We all agree immigrants provide diversity, some are net positives on the economy, sometimes talent doesn't exist in the US, etc)
- H1Bs aren't allowed to start companies, so this point is moot
- It isn't surprising that many companies are founded by immigrants or children of immigrants. The entire nation is made up of immigrants. The same point that could be made is that most rank and file worker drones are immigrants or children of immigrants.
- startups valued at more than 1 billion dollars? OK...
- "Uber, Tesla and Palantir, had created thousands of jobs and added billions of dollars to the American economy" and those dollars in the economy are concentrated in hands of the very wealthy on the backs of immigrants.
- I love Stripe, but I have a hard time believing he couldn't find "engineers and executives" already in the US to "create a novel machine-learning system to detect fraud; and it had to convince regulators and other businesses that it was safe and legal to process payments through Stripe"
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#15I'm well aware of trumps desire to crackdown on ILLEGAL immigrants but fail to understand how that's going to affect the normal immigrants that make up Silicon Valley like the Russian and Indian used as examples in the article. The travel ban was the first thing I've heard from him that was abhorrent and the near universal smack down it's received from every direction gives me hope that Trump will be kept in his plac…
It's probably for sympathetic reasons. If they can scare or get unaffected immigrants to care, it helps their cause for illegal immigrants.
Basically they're playing up one angle in the hopes it will cause sympathy in others who are not affected. Employers don't want to seem "exclusive" do they have to send out pro forma communications about their inclusiveness and vision of one world even when they are not affected or minimally affected by the bans.
They probably lose more money in the form of lost sales due to export restrictions to other places, but you don't see the dame dire warnings of a threat to viability.
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#16I'm well aware of trumps desire to crackdown on ILLEGAL immigrants but fail to understand how that's going to affect the normal immigrants that make up Silicon Valley like the Russian and Indian used as examples in the article. The travel ban was the first thing I've heard from him that was abhorrent and the near universal smack down it's received from every direction gives me hope that Trump will be kept in his plac…
While the policy rhetoric often focuses on "illegals", the substantive policy from the Republican Party is anti-immigrant, not just anti-illegal-immigrant.
The bill just introduced to cut the number of green cards issued in half, eliminate the diversity lottery, and impose permanent cuts in the number of admitted refugees would be exhibit 1.
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#17Questions for Valley workers: at what point is enough enough? What will it take to pack it up and leave? Would you consider moving to a different country or returning to a home country? If so, would you continue to work for your current employer, would you look for a job in the local market, or would you found a startup?
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White male here, I've never felt anything but welcome in SV.
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#19Isn't the solution to H1B abuse to just let people work anywhere they want after being granted the visa? This would then let the market determine the salary for this class of workers, and should put a stop to the abuses by big consulting firms.