Is there any way, as a citizen and consumer, to stop Pai? Or get him fired from FCC? Will writing Congress help?
FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
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Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
#12>AT&T and Verizon allow their own video services (DirecTV and Go90, respectively) to stream on their mobile networks without counting against customers' data caps, while charging other video providers for the same data cap exemptions. Isn't that the anti definition of net neutrality?
> Isn't that the anti definition of net neutrality?
Yes, zero-rating is a direct affront to net neutrality: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/02/zero-rating-what-it-is...
But I don't think that we're going to see many successes in net neutrality at the federal level anytime soon - the fight really has to be carried out at the state level.
Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I wonder how all those people feel that didn't vote because it doesn't matter, they're both the same ?
This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states. If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there. What is needed is a bunch of these people to move to swing states where the vote really matters. Places like OH, FL, etc.…
Perhaps someone needs to organize a movement of large populations of progressive future thinking utopian philosophers moving to different states to more effectively rig elections in the way of a more enlightened future.
Alas, I don't think there are enough of these types to actually effectively hack elections like that.
Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states. If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there. What is needed is a bunch of these people to move to swing states where the vote really matters. Places like OH, FL, etc.…
Perhaps someone needs to organize a movement of large populations of progressive future thinking utopian philosophers moving to different states to more effectively rig elections in the way of a more enlightened future. Alas, I don't think there are enough of these types to actually effectively hack elections like that.
Or you could try to influence the people already in those swing states?
Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I wonder how all those people feel that didn't vote because it doesn't matter, they're both the same ?
This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states. If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there. What is needed is a bunch of these people to move to swing states where the vote really matters. Places like OH, FL, etc.…
This simply isn't true. It matters in the Primary. There was a real choice this year.
Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
#16Thanks Trump voters!
Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I wonder how all those people feel that didn't vote because it doesn't matter, they're both the same ?
This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states. If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there. What is needed is a bunch of these people to move to swing states where the vote really matters. Places like OH, FL, etc.…
> This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states.
Wrong, you mean swing states.
> If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there.
Just as it counts less if you're a Republican in one of those states. Or a Democrat in Mississippi.
> But, the blue states people have built their own little comfortable enclaves in their respective states and there's little chance they'll be moving to places like AK, TN, or MS.
But when they want to escape the tax climate they'll move to Colorado or Wyoming or Austin, TX.
Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states. If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there. What is needed is a bunch of these people to move to swing states where the vote really matters. Places like OH, FL, etc.…
Perhaps someone needs to organize a movement of large populations of progressive future thinking utopian philosophers moving to different states to more effectively rig elections in the way of a more enlightened future. Alas, I don't think there are enough of these types to actually effectively hack elections like that.
More enlightened for who?
I'm not disagreeing with you about Net Neutrality, but to assume your opinion is enlightened or progressive for a people you've never met is very narcissistic.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps someone needs to organize a movement of large populations of progressive future thinking utopian philosophers moving to different states to more effectively rig elections in the way of a more enlightened future. Alas, I don't think there are enough of these types to actually effectively hack elections like that.
Or you could try to influence the people already in those swing states?
Sure, whatever works... I'd say that so far this approach has had questionable results.
Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states. If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there. What is needed is a bunch of these people to move to swing states where the vote really matters. Places like OH, FL, etc.…
Perhaps someone needs to organize a movement of large populations of progressive future thinking utopian philosophers moving to different states to more effectively rig elections in the way of a more enlightened future. Alas, I don't think there are enough of these types to actually effectively hack elections like that.
Libertarians did this in New Hampshire: