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I was trained for the culture wars in home school

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Re: I was trained for the culture wars in home school

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The site sells pins with the label "misandrist". What's next? Swastikas? I thought hate speech is off limits on HN.

I guess that's a feminist (probably "far-left feminist") virtue signal - similar to the "I bathe in male tears" tshirts that some self-proclaimed feminists proudly wear.

(This of course doesn't make it any less despicable.)

Re: I was trained for the culture wars in home school

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High-quality free state-run secular schools is one of the most important social achievements. In that schools a new generation can grow and learn while minimizing radicalization. That new generation meets people from different cultures and religion since they are children and learn to accept the differences. This doesn't solves all problems, is not a silver bulled, but it improves society at large. I never understood…

I believe another important piece is the Fairness doctrine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine) which forced news outlets in the US to present balanced news. Reagan killed this in 1987. It's made it much easier to live in a bubble. Fox News (and possibly most of the current US TV news; I'm not sure) couldn't exist if this doctrine was in place. The US has allowed many policies that has divided its people.

Re: I was trained for the culture wars in home school

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High-quality free state-run secular schools is one of the most important social achievements. In that schools a new generation can grow and learn while minimizing radicalization. That new generation meets people from different cultures and religion since they are children and learn to accept the differences. This doesn't solves all problems, is not a silver bulled, but it improves society at large. I never understood…

I believe another important piece is the Fairness doctrine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine ) which forced news outlets in the US to present balanced news. Reagan killed this in 1987. It's made it much easier to live in a bubble. Fox News (and possibly most of the current US TV news; I'm not sure) couldn't exist if this doctrine was in place. The US has allowed many policies that has divided its peop…

Wasn't there a famous case when Fox news said it wasn't news?

Re: I was trained for the culture wars in home school

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High-quality free state-run secular schools is one of the most important social achievements. In that schools a new generation can grow and learn while minimizing radicalization. That new generation meets people from different cultures and religion since they are children and learn to accept the differences. This doesn't solves all problems, is not a silver bulled, but it improves society at large. I never understood…

I genuinely believe that home schooling shouldn't be allowed, except for kids with disabilities which stop them from leaving home. It just seems to me that Americans fear radical islam, while extremely radical Christianity grows right under their noses. I agree that free state-run secular schools are the way to go for modern society.

> I genuinely believe that home schooling shouldn't be allowed

Maybe we should just give kids to bullies to use as slaves? Probably auction them.

(School was unarguably the worst period of my life, period. Bonus points for being blamed for that even later on, when affluent and successful)

(Nobody ever blames bullies for being ones. They were "just kids". Now you - you do get blamed for having been bullied)

Re: I was trained for the culture wars in home school

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High-quality free state-run secular schools is one of the most important social achievements. In that schools a new generation can grow and learn while minimizing radicalization. That new generation meets people from different cultures and religion since they are children and learn to accept the differences. This doesn't solves all problems, is not a silver bulled, but it improves society at large. I never understood…

I genuinely believe that home schooling shouldn't be allowed, except for kids with disabilities which stop them from leaving home. It just seems to me that Americans fear radical islam, while extremely radical Christianity grows right under their noses. I agree that free state-run secular schools are the way to go for modern society.

Fun fact: here in Germany, home schooling is illegal. I'm with you -- I think this is probably for the best. After all, how do you get kids to learn to socialize and integrate with society at large (regardless of their background), if they don't attend school and get out from under their parents?

But this is also the only basis on which Germans can typically sucessfully claim asylum in the US, and have successfully in the past: the idea that they are fleeing "religious or political persecution" for not being allowed to keep their kids at home and teach them in an isolated environment.

Re: I was trained for the culture wars in home school

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely believe that home schooling shouldn't be allowed, except for kids with disabilities which stop them from leaving home. It just seems to me that Americans fear radical islam, while extremely radical Christianity grows right under their noses. I agree that free state-run secular schools are the way to go for modern society.

> I genuinely believe that home schooling shouldn't be allowed Maybe we should just give kids to bullies to use as slaves? Probably auction them. (School was unarguably the worst period of my life, period. Bonus points for being blamed for that even later on, when affluent and successful) (Nobody ever blames bullies for being ones. They were "just kids". Now you - you do get blamed for having been bullied)

It's like saying that someone broke your arm at school,so maybe we should break arms of every kid at school. This would never happen with home schooling!

My point is - these two are unrelated. I say home schooling shouldn't be allowed, you say you were bullied at school. So is your point that everyone should be home schooled?

I mean....bullies are usually bullies because they have shit parents who don't care about their kids. Do you think that home schooling is the answer here?

Re: I was trained for the culture wars in home school

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Complete misrepresentation of homeschooling based on one person's anecdotal experience.

"A single powerful person who is convinced of their own Rightness with no thought of introspection is dangerous."

Indeed.

Perhaps we'd be better served to stop vilifying an entire subset of the population and actually listen to the parents who have recognized that public education is broken and who are taking other measures to educate their children.

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