Extremely cool feat. Next try Chicago or Detroit in January guys.
Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
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Re: Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
#12Now that tesla has started to pretend selling autonomous cars now is making sense, the field went from research ( where researcher honestly reports shortcomings themselves) to the horrendous world of SV start up, where everything should be considered a lie until the day someone can actually buy the stuff and test for himself. And so you end up with posts like this trying to analyse a video frame by frame to assess th…
"...until the day someone can actually buy the stuff" I'm reasonably certain we can stop right there. It's a heavily regulated field and these things can't be sold until they've been rigorously tested. I know SV isn't known for its coziness with regulatory agencies, but in the field of safety, they'll have to play ball or take on all the liability the lawsuits will throw at them.
Plus, many of the players do not have the intention of ever letting you "buy" the hardware. You will be buying transportation from A -> B, and it might just come in the form of an autonomous car (or a human driver).
Re: Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
#13Cruise was a sponsor of ROSCon in 2014, but had no booth or presenters: http://roscon.ros.org/2014/#program
Nor do they have any presence I'm aware of on Github. This is in contrast to BMW, for example, who have made a number of contributions: https://github.com/bmwcarit
Anyway, just curious to what extent Cruise used (or still uses) ROS and open source software in their stack.
Re: Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
#14Now that tesla has started to pretend selling autonomous cars now is making sense, the field went from research ( where researcher honestly reports shortcomings themselves) to the horrendous world of SV start up, where everything should be considered a lie until the day someone can actually buy the stuff and test for himself. And so you end up with posts like this trying to analyse a video frame by frame to assess th…
Cruise is now owned by GM, which I really doubt is going to throw something out into the market without testing very rigorously first.
Re: Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
#15Extremely cool feat. Next try Chicago or Detroit in January guys.
Thats one of the reasons why Uber chose Pittsburgh for development. We might not get the same amount of snow as those cities but we get enough and have a variety of terrain for them to use as test cases.
Re: Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
#16Extremely cool feat. Next try Chicago or Detroit in January guys.
Thats one of the reasons why Uber chose Pittsburgh for development. We might not get the same amount of snow as those cities but we get enough and have a variety of terrain for them to use as test cases.
CMU being there doesn't hurt, either
Re: Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
#17Nice. It's annoying that they provide only 10x sped up video. Watching this slowed down is helpful.
Notes:
* There are frequent steering twitches to the left. This may be associated with passing parked cars. There are similar twitches to the right when in the left lane of a one-way street.
* Crosswalk behavior when turning needs some work. The vehicle enters the intersection, then stops in the intersection before the crosswalk with people in it. This is a hard problem, because the system needs to recognize people waiting to cross but not yet in the roadway. When the light turns green, both the pedestrians going straight and the turning vehicle can enter the intersection, the pedestrians having right of way. The pedestrians now block the vehicle, and the vehicle blocks the bike lane.
* Left turns into multi-lane streets are too wide and into the wrong lane.
* On two occasions, the vehicle is stuck behind a doubly-parked vehicle engaged in loading. The options are to wait or to cross a double yellow line. There's a delay of several seconds, then forward movement. Suspect manual intervention.
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#18Now that tesla has started to pretend selling autonomous cars now is making sense, the field went from research ( where researcher honestly reports shortcomings themselves) to the horrendous world of SV start up, where everything should be considered a lie until the day someone can actually buy the stuff and test for himself. And so you end up with posts like this trying to analyse a video frame by frame to assess th…
Cruise is now owned by GM, which I really doubt is going to throw something out into the market without testing very rigorously first.
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Re: Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
#19"Level 4" means that no human intervention is required and in case of conditions going from good to bad, the car can autonomously put itself in a safe state.
That was nice and clean city driving in the video clips but nothing that distinguishes it from "Level 3" (human intervention may be required within ~15 seconds or so) or even "Level 2" (human intervention may be required within seconds, current state of the art).
Re: Cruise Shows Off Level 4 Skills in SF, Passing Uber and Maybe Waymo
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thats one of the reasons why Uber chose Pittsburgh for development. We might not get the same amount of snow as those cities but we get enough and have a variety of terrain for them to use as test cases.
CMU being there doesn't hurt, either
Yup. Plus the mayor was trying to remove as much red tape for them as he could to bring the notoriety to the city.