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Re: Fat shaming linked to greater health risks

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Post by grzm » Fri, Jan 27, 2017, 5:47 AM UTC

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #9

grzm wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused. I understood your list of criticisms of the paper as reasons why the paper doesn't have a valid conclusion. I would expect these to be scientifically valid criticisms if they're expected to be valid criticisms of science, even if they aren't in a science journal. (My head is spinning a bit writing that.) I must be misunderstanding. Can you clarify what you mean? (Note that my initial comment is just tha…

You are not confused. you just disagree with me. That's fine. Just say you disagree. It's funny that you think a comment on HN is equivalent to a research paper on a science journal. You can call me bullshit if I ever publish a paper on this with above 4 items claiming this to be "science". Well, until then.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify. I appreciate it.

With regards to calling any of your comments bullshit, I think you're confusing me with 'JoeAltmaier.

I certainly don't consider an HN comment equivalent to a research paper. I do think that an HN comment calling into question the validity of a journal article should strive for validity itself. If we disagree, that's where we do.

Re: Fat shaming linked to greater health risks

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Post by cooper12 » Fri, Jan 27, 2017, 6:15 AM UTC

I'm pretty sure this thread is getting brigaded. Two new accounts with usernames like "AtheistPUA" (which stands for pickup artist [0]) and "truthexposer" who both espouse fat-shaming, with the latter explicitly calling woman fat, and neither demonstrating that they have read the article.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community

Re: Fat shaming linked to greater health risks

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Post by andrew_wc_brown » Fri, Jan 27, 2017, 3:24 PM UTC

This is the link to the article in full detail with citation. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oby.21716/full The citiations is linked to a website where I could not gain access.

Here are my critisims:

* 178 people from one community is too small of a data sample. * The majority were black older women so there could be cultral/racial bias * They do not state the details of their 'weight-loss program' so we can't scrutize its effectiveness. * They don't even shame the patients, they just measure their mood.

I was really hoping they were going to make participants walk the street naked as people say "Shame, Shame, Shame." and the measure the affect.

I hear Japan has a fat tax and it works. Japanese companies can be taxed for having fat employees.

Re: Fat shaming linked to greater health risks

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Post by sonnyhe2002 » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 2:54 AM UTC

This article makes a broad statement which is bad. It loosely links research done that is not about fat shaming and uses fat shaming in its propaganda. Even if fat shaming makes the fat person less healthy, mayhap the shame will deter the rest of the population from being fat, and therefore have an overall benefit. We can see this in asian countries where being fatty is not advertised like it is in the western world.