It's free market, isn't it? Take it or leave it - nobody forces you to use Google ad network. ;). /s At this point I'm convinced that nothing but regulation can make those big companies - on which our digital lives are more and more dependent - to provide even a modicum of customer support. Right now they don't care, because they simply don't have to - a HN headline every other week doesn't create measurable losses,…
I never really understand why comments like this get downvoted. There seems to be love for the free market. That is until the free market goes against what I want. Then the free market sucks! What if FARK was another type of business. Say it is the corner 7-11[1]. They have been there for 18 years, and their major source of customers was the big factory next door. Factory decides to either move / redesign / whatever,…
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#12Isn't there enough competition within the ad industry to just switch to a different provider?
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#13Isn't there enough competition within the ad industry to just switch to a different provider?
Nope. There really isn't, or if there is, it's niche dependent. To diversify away from Google, I've tried other ad providers and struggled to make 20% as much...
https://adexchanger.com/the-sell-sider/the-strategic-implica...
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#14Who is running your campaigns that they can be disabled for more than a month without anyone noticing?!
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#15It's free market, isn't it? Take it or leave it - nobody forces you to use Google ad network. ;). /s At this point I'm convinced that nothing but regulation can make those big companies - on which our digital lives are more and more dependent - to provide even a modicum of customer support. Right now they don't care, because they simply don't have to - a HN headline every other week doesn't create measurable losses,…
Additionally, responding to outright fraud by Google with the statement "move elsewhere" is a pretty incredible admission of the power they have. They can abuse their near-monopoly of the market with almost no fear of reprisal.
[1]: http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2017/01/ec...
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EDIT: Just saw your below comment that you were trying to be sarcastic. Ah well, it was apparently lost on me.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never really understand why comments like this get downvoted. There seems to be love for the free market. That is until the free market goes against what I want. Then the free market sucks! What if FARK was another type of business. Say it is the corner 7-11[1]. They have been there for 18 years, and their major source of customers was the big factory next door. Factory decides to either move / redesign / whatever,…
You raise a good point, but I start to have a feeling people read my comment as a defense of Google and free markets. It's not. The opening sentence was meant sarcastically.
Poe's Law strikes again!
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#17It's free market, isn't it? Take it or leave it - nobody forces you to use Google ad network. ;). /s At this point I'm convinced that nothing but regulation can make those big companies - on which our digital lives are more and more dependent - to provide even a modicum of customer support. Right now they don't care, because they simply don't have to - a HN headline every other week doesn't create measurable losses,…
Because the theoretical "free market" is nothing like what actually happens in practice. The Economist had a great writeup on this a few days ago [1], but the short of it is that Google is the definitive market leader, with almost no one in second place. Moving to a different network is simply accepting that your ads will perform worse. Additionally, responding to outright fraud by Google with the statement "move els…
And this applies not just to Google - but also to Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and probably few others, as proven by the amount of such stories popping up on HN in the past few years.
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#18>Our ads were turned off for almost five weeks - completely and totally their mistake Who is running your campaigns that they can be disabled for more than a month without anyone noticing?!
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#19>Our ads were turned off for almost five weeks - completely and totally their mistake Who is running your campaigns that they can be disabled for more than a month without anyone noticing?!
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#20Woah, Fark still exists and looks almost exactly how I remember it 15 years ago