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Re: Uber Movement

#11
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And I do wonder why google maps with much more data hasn't done this...

1. Privacy 2. Google doesn't have the same incentive to release data to local governments as Uber does (to improve regulatory relationships).

How so privacy? This data is anonymised, they could do the same.

Re: Uber Movement

#13

How does Uber anonymize the data? Does it only use subset of a trip? If you can see where and when a trip started or finished, it's definitely not anonymous enough.

Certainly, this data can be identifiable.

Re: Uber Movement

#14

How does Uber anonymize the data? Does it only use subset of a trip? If you can see where and when a trip started or finished, it's definitely not anonymous enough.

From the FAQ: "All data is anonymized and aggregated to ensure no personally identifiable information or user behavior can be surfaced through the Movement tool"

Aggregation is a common method for anonymization. One approach is to only display trips that were made by at least 15 different people in a day.

Re: Uber Movement

#15
This won't help in Belgium, where Trucks need to pay "road taxes" and have a device installed for that. They can also get the data for tracking vehicles and they won't need Uber.

Good idea though, but not applicable everywhere

Re: Uber Movement

#16

I'm curious what techniques they will use to anonymize the data. I would guess some sort of differential privacy technique.

I hope so, but I would be a little surprised if they used DP. I am more inclined to think they will take a 'traditional' (weaker in terms of provable privacy protection) approach.

Re: Uber Movement

#18
post #11
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Privacy 2. Google doesn't have the same incentive to release data to local governments as Uber does (to improve regulatory relationships).

How so privacy? This data is anonymised, they could do the same.

Provable privacy based on 'anonymized' published data sets that resists third-party information and linkage is really hard -- arguably impossible in general. When people claim 'anonymized' data, I tend to not be fully convinced.

Re: Uber Movement

#19

This won't help in Belgium, where Trucks need to pay "road taxes" and have a device installed for that. They can also get the data for tracking vehicles and they won't need Uber. Good idea though, but not applicable everywhere

Knowing "N people wanted to go from roughly here to roughly there enough to pay Uber for the ride" is information that wouldn't show up in "my truck moved from X to Y" data, and which is potentially hugely valuable to those adjusting public transit.

Re: Uber Movement

#20

How does Uber anonymize the data? Does it only use subset of a trip? If you can see where and when a trip started or finished, it's definitely not anonymous enough.

Maybe they could randomize the pickup / dropoff points within a small radius, say 1/4 mile.
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