The new passports will not be issued until April 2018. I just realised I'll end up with one of the first ones - my current spare passport expires on March 31st, 2018.
What country is your main passport?
Norway’s new passport – already a design classic?
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#12I find it hilarious that the related articles includes this: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design... , which basically details how the UK government has managed to make an utter mess of the same exact design space.
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#13The new passports will not be issued until April 2018. I just realised I'll end up with one of the first ones - my current spare passport expires on March 31st, 2018.
More likely you'll end up with one of the last ones. Generally it is good to keep at least 6 months of validity on your passport if you plan on using it.
Depending on the country, it might be more difficult to renew it after it has expired than shortly before.
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#14I've been thinking that the security function served by a passport is very rapidly becoming obsolete (or at least redundant) for travel to most countries in the world. It could be replaced by a plastic photo ID card -- which you could then call a "passport" I suppose. And with strong biometrics, it could be replaced by nothing. Let me explain this with typical cases where a passport is used: (1) You're entering your…
You're totally right, the paper passport could be considered a strange object in a very electronic world. However, in my experience, truly electronically equipped borders are the edge case. The countries that take e-passports without any agent interaction are fee and far between, and typically only service citizens of that country. Perhaps you're fortunate enough to travel in a selection of bleeding edge countries, v…
>For an electronic system to work, you'd need 100% coverage of every border, or the system breaks - and that's hard to pull off.
And therein lies the true absurdity of it. All travel stops if the internet goes down?
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#15I've been thinking that the security function served by a passport is very rapidly becoming obsolete (or at least redundant) for travel to most countries in the world. It could be replaced by a plastic photo ID card -- which you could then call a "passport" I suppose. And with strong biometrics, it could be replaced by nothing. Let me explain this with typical cases where a passport is used: (1) You're entering your…
It's still an important component of human-oriented societies, to permit the individual to inform you of who they claim to be.
You rob individuals of agency, when you start dictating to them who you've declared them to be.
If two identical twins appear becore you, wearing sunglasses and gloves, are you going to demand that they remove their accessories, so that your special machine can declare them honest?
Sounds like an alienating place. How far will this go, once a person crosses the threshold, and steps into such a zone of absolute identity? Smart people might wish to stay the hell away from such a place.
Smart people might prefer a place that permits them the dignity of producing an artifact from their pockets, rather than acquiescing to a medical inspection.
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#16I've been thinking that the security function served by a passport is very rapidly becoming obsolete (or at least redundant) for travel to most countries in the world. It could be replaced by a plastic photo ID card -- which you could then call a "passport" I suppose. And with strong biometrics, it could be replaced by nothing. Let me explain this with typical cases where a passport is used: (1) You're entering your…
For land/sea crossings between Canada and the US, there exists such a thing -- it's known as an Enhanced Drivers License and contains a barcode and RFID chip in it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Drivers_License
But the Federal government can't mandate having these machine-readable identifiers on the State-issued drivers licenses, so we're stuck with Passport Cards and Passport Books in addition to the EDL.
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#17All cred to Norway for doing their part to make a passport something usable and something a citizen can show with pride.
However not a patch on current New Zealand passport design. Everywhere i take mine out for use i get comments about how cool and yet elegant it looks - inside and out.
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#18I've been thinking that the security function served by a passport is very rapidly becoming obsolete (or at least redundant) for travel to most countries in the world. It could be replaced by a plastic photo ID card -- which you could then call a "passport" I suppose. And with strong biometrics, it could be replaced by nothing. Let me explain this with typical cases where a passport is used: (1) You're entering your…
If by "most countries in the world" you mean first world countries - the EU numbers 28, add in the US, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc. you might get up to 40-50 countries where this is a reasonable expectation. I am sure there are even edge cases along the US-Canada border where the crossings aren't all electronic since it is overkill when 99% of the people crossing are locals.
There are 180-200 countries in the world. You characterisation of the vast majority of them as "very third-world" is rather crass. You are also ignoring possible police stops inside of foreign countries. In order to ask for a bribe, they check that you have all of your paperwork in order.
For (1), The Schengen area has already implemented this for EU countries with national identity card schemes. In contrast, the US doesn't have a national identity card scheme so you still need a passport (booklet by air, card by land or sea). Even illegal immigrants can get an ID card or Driver's license in California, for instance.
For (2), some countries just want to collect a little fee and don't care much beyond that as long as you stay for less than 30 or 90 days.
For (3), the US, for instance, extends the Visa Waiver Program to any country when the Visa reject rate drops low enough. I think you are greatly overestimating the level of cooperation between countries on visa policy.
it seems to be the trend, like the elimination of cash.
Again, this trend is limited to very first world countries. In most of the world, cash is still king.
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#19I've been thinking that the security function served by a passport is very rapidly becoming obsolete (or at least redundant) for travel to most countries in the world. It could be replaced by a plastic photo ID card -- which you could then call a "passport" I suppose. And with strong biometrics, it could be replaced by nothing. Let me explain this with typical cases where a passport is used: (1) You're entering your…
It's still an important component of human-oriented societies, to permit the individual to inform you of who they claim to be. You rob individuals of agency, when you start dictating to them who you've declared them to be. If two identical twins appear becore you, wearing sunglasses and gloves, are you going to demand that they remove their accessories, so that your special machine can declare them honest? Sounds lik…
On several occasions I have been rather nearly killed by reckless drivers. In each instance I recorded the license plate number and phoned the police. In each instance the police said they could not be sure who was driving therefore could not even begin an inquiry.
In your quasianonymous utopia, which twin is to blame when one of them comes to my country and injures someone? Neither?
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#20What does it take to become a citizen of Norway? Asking for a friend.