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Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

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Find a niche and start a company -- solve something you hit as a programmer for example. Expose an API and call it good. You seem uniquely qualified being extroverted and competent. It's a crazy long shot I know but I found that only when I was day-tading (not the same thing) I was happiest because I was earning for myself and making my own hours and best of all trying to see if my hypothesis (or in your case your co…

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Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

#12
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It depends upon where you're located. Are you looking for remote work? Its far more difficult to get hired for a remote job than to find one that is local to your area. The bulk of remote jobs go to engineers in inexpensive countries not in places like LA and SF with a high cost of living.

Toronto, ON! I agree

Tried looking for jobs in the Kitchener-Waterloo area?

EDIT: there will be lots of smaller companies there that will be more understanding of no-formal-education.

Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

#13
Some companies work and hire on the "trends"[1] — MEAN stack guy, Elasticsearch ninja. Some companies give more weight to technical soundness and discount the Fleeting Fad of Flashy Frameworks. They focus on solving problems — even if imperfectly so. Although, the job descriptions would sound daunting (they did to me two years back) but in my view, every company that falls in category two should be willing to hear from you. Sincerity, communication, curiosity and great work ethic go long way compared to scant experience in a particular framework.

A cursory look at the everyday applications that companies get would make you realise how you are far ahead of the curve. I would advice you to not get intimated by job requirements and start applying. If they don't reply, try following up (don't worry you are not intruding). Try reaching out to your network if anyone is up for hiring. Get comfortable doing interviews and meeting people. And don't get discouraged by rejections. Companies, after all, are run by people who have their own biases and idiosyncrasies. They might pick up the wrong impression or you might get rejected for a reason that is far disconnected from your coding ability.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11326940

Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

#14

Show your project on application and ignore requirements. Just stupid HR could ignore you. Also, pm a CEO or DM/PM.

Thanks Dan, I am currently trying my final attempt and last hope that maybe if I show them a portfolio or link them to my github account, they are willing to hire.

What's your github?

Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

#15
post #7

It depends upon where you're located. Are you looking for remote work? Its far more difficult to get hired for a remote job than to find one that is local to your area. The bulk of remote jobs go to engineers in inexpensive countries not in places like LA and SF with a high cost of living.

Toronto, ON! I agree

Yeah probably starting out freelance is your best bet, the old school method of building sites and apps for local business. You might find the local market can work for you if a lot of local businesses still need web and or ios apps.

Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

#16
Make some of your code public on Github. Do a web or mobile app or two - even proof of concept type stuff but it has to be 'complete' in the sense that it should do the job it's supposed to. Use these to demonstrate your programming ability during interviews, and let employers know you're ready to learn new tools.

Pick one set of tools to be your current 'major', say Swift perhaps and spend time getting better at Swift than the rest of the stuff you know. Apply for Swift jobs and be confident!

One more thing. Always be prepared to switch your major to a new one (language, platform). If you ask me, Elixir/Phoenix has lots of potential and 2017 might be seeing a lot of job openings for it.

Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

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post #7

It depends upon where you're located. Are you looking for remote work? Its far more difficult to get hired for a remote job than to find one that is local to your area. The bulk of remote jobs go to engineers in inexpensive countries not in places like LA and SF with a high cost of living.

Toronto, ON! I agree

Wealthsimple is based in Toronto and hriring, did you try applying there?

Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

#18
If you have the spare time, find a solid Github project and start contributing to build up your portfolio. Leverage your extroversion and give a couple of expert talks at meetup to showcase your knowledge. Basically use the talents you have to sell yourself.

PS: If I had to pick a focus area I'd do AI. Supply and demand are in your favor.

Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

#19
This may not be what you are looking for, but it is worth considering /not to work in the industry/. I've been coding since the age of 7 and I'm now in my early 30s. There's a lot of programming that can be done outside of this industry (e.g. by working on free software projects), and in some cases it can even be financed through grants.

In my experience a software development job is often the easiest way to destroy what you may love about programming. There may be exceptions, but many of the jobs and their limitations cannot compete with coding out of passion. Jobs in the software development industry are not the only way to make use of and grow your programming skills.

Re: Ask HN: I'm 24, coding since 14, and I don't know what to do

#20
Have you tried approaching CEO:s directly with a phonecall? If you make a good impression that can make a world of difference. Athletism and extroversion are certainly an asset using this approach. If you can program and not just copy and paste stack overflow that should put you at least in the top half of candidates.

Also - coding skills alone are not that hot - they just make you into a replaceable cog. However, if you combine this with domain specialization this could make you into a valuable contributor. And by domain specialization I mean what ever is the core business of a business. Tomato delivery logistics? Insurance policy business rules? Trash truck maintenance database operation? (I'm making this up, but most businesses are run by their own rules and terminology - being familiar how they work gives you the right to claim 'domain knowledge').

I'm 100% sure there is a domain for you to specialize out there. You'll find it if you don't give up. Social skills are probably a really good asset here. Stop talking to HR. Start talking to the upper management directly. Everybody likes to interact with a nice person when they have the time - unless they are lizard people, in which instance they should be avoided in any case.

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