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Runners’ brains may be more connected, research shows

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Re: Runners’ brains may be more connected, research shows

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Do we know if that is because Runners and Musicians tend to be generally better educated and raised, both those things being markers of middle- and upper- class membership?

They controlled for this. "Participants were roughly the same age — 18 to 25 — with comparable body mass index and educational levels."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would learning drumming help unlock these patterns? I signed up for lessons yesterday :)

Hell yes. I'm a "drummer" first. I don't mention this because drumming is rarely thought as musical. It does make you reflect on different part of the musical continuum. To summarize my years twirling sticks: - drumming often lead to learning things slow. Focusing on minute details that are ignored, also meditative (you have to be slow and low energy but it's dense, you pay attention at the 10th of a second so you're…

Can't agree with you more. I'm a drummer as well, and I didn't "get" drumming until I learned to relax, and instead of forcing hits to be in time, it felt more like I was directing a flow of notes.A lot of what you said really resonated with me, I feel the same about a lot of it. At my high school we've always taught that "to go fast, you have to go slow".

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Actually, the article is mainly about running. Music is mentioned just once, and a bit tangentially.

PS. the photo in the article shows the waterfront of Halifax, Nova Scotia, with Georges Island to the left. The island is the site of Fort Charlotte. During the seven years war, the English imprisoned 2000 French sailors there, which is hard to imagine, given the size of the island (all of which is visible in the photo).

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Do runners create brains? Or do brains create runners? The study is interesting but, as the article mentions, more needs to be learned.

That aside, it's likely a bit of both. In the case of the latter (I.e., brain creates runner) what happens when the person fails to realize their potential (?)? That is, you have a runner brain but are 20 lbs overweight and sit on your ass all day. Does that, can that, drive mental illness e.g., depression)?

Regardless, lack of blood flow can't be a positive.

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Actually, the article is mainly about running. Music is mentioned just once, and a bit tangentially. PS. the photo in the article shows the waterfront of Halifax, Nova Scotia, with Georges Island to the left. The island is the site of Fort Charlotte. During the seven years war, the English imprisoned 2000 French sailors there, which is hard to imagine, given the size of the island (all of which is visible in the phot…

Yes, please don’t editorialize titles. Some titles are awkward and need editing. But fixing what the title is trying to say is not the same thing as changing the title to say what you want it to say.

Which does not mean that your perspective is not important. So instead of editorializing the title, either leave it be or fix it to say what the source intended, then kick of the discussion with your own interpretation as a comment.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell yes. I'm a "drummer" first. I don't mention this because drumming is rarely thought as musical. It does make you reflect on different part of the musical continuum. To summarize my years twirling sticks: - drumming often lead to learning things slow. Focusing on minute details that are ignored, also meditative (you have to be slow and low energy but it's dense, you pay attention at the 10th of a second so you're…

Can't agree with you more. I'm a drummer as well, and I didn't "get" drumming until I learned to relax, and instead of forcing hits to be in time, it felt more like I was directing a flow of notes.A lot of what you said really resonated with me, I feel the same about a lot of it. At my high school we've always taught that "to go fast, you have to go slow".

Happy to hear that. I rarely read similar testimonies on the web, and since I'm self taught on drums (a few videos here and there but no face to face lessons).

Isn't it amazing that "relaxation" improves things that much ? it makes you tap in the system much more efficiently. Goes well with my notion of minimalism and also the ways of elders [1]. Did you understand the high school 'fast is slow' motto or was it flying over your head ?

Latin has a proverb precisely for that: "in festina lente". Seems like antique knowledge ...

ps: Also, I kept trying wrong "fast" intuition for something like 6 years until I started to break it all apart and starts back from scratch and slow. One thing that helped me is leading left hand (I'm right handed). Even playing anything with any limb. You just cannot go fast, you have to relearn bit by bit. Surprisingly everything starts to have a better ring. It also corrected things that could flow fast on the right but were mostly luck. Another enlightenment.

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I found that learning music unlocked pattern comprehensions that were very mathematical. Multiple layers of abstraction (rhythm or note points, derivatives of these two, overlay, non linear transformations, and the equivalent momentum phenomenons). Running is something that trigger creative mind activity for me. And a form of flow. I wouldn't be surprised if other physical activity would do the same: climbing, even b…

> “Music is the pleasure the human soul experiences from counting without being aware that it is counting.”

-- German mathematician and philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz (1646-1716), who co-discovered calculus

Re: Runners’ brains may be more connected, research shows

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I found that learning music unlocked pattern comprehensions that were very mathematical. Multiple layers of abstraction (rhythm or note points, derivatives of these two, overlay, non linear transformations, and the equivalent momentum phenomenons). Running is something that trigger creative mind activity for me. And a form of flow. I wouldn't be surprised if other physical activity would do the same: climbing, even b…

I don't do body building (taking a narrow definition of the term), but I do heavy (for me) barbell lifts as part of my regular exercise routine.

For some anecdata, I consistently find myself in a better frame of mind after lifting as long as I was properly focused on form, challenging myself rather than going through the motions, etc.

My university education revolved around cello performance, and I find many similarities in the state of mind after a good practice session compared with a good lifting session.

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