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Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by jah » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:06 AM UTC

fferen wrote: post #10

> I tested the new feature on my favorite opening: 1.e4 e5 2.f4!, a.k.a. the mighty King Gambit. Stockfish hates it, and asked me to review it like it was a mistake! Yet it's considered playable. Actually Carlsen played it against Arionian in 2015. Not acceptable, Mr Stockfish! Actually, the King's Gambit has been (essentially) solved: https://en.chessbase.com/post/rajlich-busting-the-king-s-gam... There is only one…

That's an April Fool's Day prank. The King's Gambit has not been solved.

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by ucarion » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:07 AM UTC

fferen wrote: post #10

> I tested the new feature on my favorite opening: 1.e4 e5 2.f4!, a.k.a. the mighty King Gambit. Stockfish hates it, and asked me to review it like it was a mistake! Yet it's considered playable. Actually Carlsen played it against Arionian in 2015. Not acceptable, Mr Stockfish! Actually, the King's Gambit has been (essentially) solved: https://en.chessbase.com/post/rajlich-busting-the-king-s-gam... There is only one…

That article is an April Fool's joke: https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-chebase-april-fool-s-prank

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by k2052 » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:10 AM UTC

fferen wrote: post #10

> I tested the new feature on my favorite opening: 1.e4 e5 2.f4!, a.k.a. the mighty King Gambit. Stockfish hates it, and asked me to review it like it was a mistake! Yet it's considered playable. Actually Carlsen played it against Arionian in 2015. Not acceptable, Mr Stockfish! Actually, the King's Gambit has been (essentially) solved: https://en.chessbase.com/post/rajlich-busting-the-king-s-gam... There is only one…

The King's Gambit hasn't been solved nor is it likely to be solved any time soon. That article was one of Chessbase's annual April Fools posts. https://en.chessbase.com/post/the-chebase-april-fools-revisi...

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by mdevere » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:14 AM UTC

how does this compare to chess.com ? that site also has a post-game analyse feature which presents alternative lines

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by slilo » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:16 AM UTC

I'd like to have similar tool for the game of Go!

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by gghh » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:18 AM UTC

csmajorfive wrote: post #7

lichess.org and the corresponding open source project[1] are really quite something. If you're at all interested in chess or code, I recommend following it -- their great execution will inspire you. [1] https://github.com/ornicar/lila

Has the site been around for long? I've never heard of it but it looks like a large-ish community.

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by pstch » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:21 AM UTC

mdevere wrote: post #14

how does this compare to chess.com ? that site also has a post-game analyse feature which presents alternative lines

LiChess also provides post-game analyse features, allowing Stockfish to determine alternative lines, and also learn from your own mistakes.

I never used chess.com, so I cannot really compare. I'm an avid user of the linked site, and use it play both with friends and users around the world. So far it's been a great experience, and I still have lots to discover : chess studies, tournaments and alternate game modes.

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by Fillipoman » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:24 AM UTC

robryan wrote: post #8

smallnamespace wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that actually the case, or perhaps humans try a lot of sub-optimal opening lines?

Sub optimal from the perspective of the AI, some positions that seem easy for an AI looking 10 moves ahead might be tricky for your opponent.

Exactly. In my opinion, chess at its core is all about presenting challenging puzzles to your opponent and solving the puzzles put to you by your opponent. An engine may show that one side is way ahead but it could all depend on finding one series of precise moves and therefore not be much of an advantage at all for a human under the pressure of the clock.

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by pstch » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:26 AM UTC

gghh wrote: post #16

csmajorfive wrote: post #7

lichess.org and the corresponding open source project[1] are really quite something. If you're at all interested in chess or code, I recommend following it -- their great execution will inspire you. [1] https://github.com/ornicar/lila

Has the site been around for long? I've never heard of it but it looks like a large-ish community.

It was launched in 2016, with a much simpler interface (no accounts iirc), which evolved a lot to come to this day.

Its source code is also really interesting, it makes me want to learn Scala.

Re: LiChess: Learn from your mistakes

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Post by no_wizard » Fri, Dec 23, 2016, 2:30 AM UTC

Gotta ask and I ain't trying to start a flame war here.... how's the community compared to say, ICC? I was a big time user of ICC back in the day simply because the average player was high caliber after FICS started to become a bit of a dead zone for standard players (I like 45 5 or higher timed classic games )