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New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by rubyn00bie »

As the article says, there's nothing really new here. It's more so just making it formal instead of letting people know by having the DEA knock down their door to find out.

From the article:

"There is no major change in law brought about by the Register item. Rather, it serves to clarify and reinforce the DEA’s position on all cannabis extracts, including CBD oil."

I was shocked people were selling CBD oils thinking it was okay; that's the only news here for me.

Disclaimer: I think marijuana is great and am from a state where it's blissfully legal ;)

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by 0xfeba »

1024core wrote: post #6

Exactly! Yet another politician who goes against common sense and does the exact opposite of what he said on the campaign trail. And people wonder why Trump won?!? Edit: Are there people on HN who'll downvote anything with the string "Trump" in it? Not that I care about downvotes (it's just an int in some volatile memory on some server), but I'm surprised people would downvote without even reading.

> And people wonder why Trump won?!?

The same Trump who's been back-tracking and 'reconsidering' all his campaign promises before he's even spent one day in office?

The same people who think that a billionaire placing other billionaires in his cabinet is somehow an "outsider" to the elites and going to help them?

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by TenOhms »

chimeracoder wrote: post #4
1024core wrote: post #3

I am so fucking tired of the DEA and the joke it has become. And I will also blame Obama for continuing this mess: as someone who smoked pot heavily in his youth (and still turned out OK), for his administration to continue this lie that cannabis is some super gateway drug and has no medicinal value, is shameful. Science, bitches! Put aside your religious biases and ask: What does science say? /rant

> And I will also blame Obama for continuing this mess He didn't just continue it; he doubled down on it. For some reason, Obama receives credit for relaxing laws on medical marijuana, but the reality is the opposite. Obama actually increased the rate of crackdowns on dispensaries in states with medical marijuana, and spent far more on enforcing federal marijuana laws in these states than either Bush or Clinton did[0…

Follow the money. Pharma has a lot of it, and they're willing to invest in politics to keep what they have and get even more.

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Post by imgabe »

0xfeba wrote: post #12
1024core wrote: post #6

Exactly! Yet another politician who goes against common sense and does the exact opposite of what he said on the campaign trail. And people wonder why Trump won?!? Edit: Are there people on HN who'll downvote anything with the string "Trump" in it? Not that I care about downvotes (it's just an int in some volatile memory on some server), but I'm surprised people would downvote without even reading.

> And people wonder why Trump won?!? The same Trump who's been back-tracking and 'reconsidering' all his campaign promises before he's even spent one day in office? The same people who think that a billionaire placing other billionaires in his cabinet is somehow an "outsider" to the elites and going to help them?

So, when he said these things during the campaign, they were horrible awful things that made him a lunatic idiot. But, now if he "reconsiders" these horrible idiotic things he's suddenly a backtracking flip-flopper?

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by jklinger410 »

0xfeba wrote: post #12
1024core wrote: post #6

Exactly! Yet another politician who goes against common sense and does the exact opposite of what he said on the campaign trail. And people wonder why Trump won?!? Edit: Are there people on HN who'll downvote anything with the string "Trump" in it? Not that I care about downvotes (it's just an int in some volatile memory on some server), but I'm surprised people would downvote without even reading.

> And people wonder why Trump won?!? The same Trump who's been back-tracking and 'reconsidering' all his campaign promises before he's even spent one day in office? The same people who think that a billionaire placing other billionaires in his cabinet is somehow an "outsider" to the elites and going to help them?

IIRC Trump won before he started backing out of his campaign promises.

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by chimeracoder »

TenOhms wrote: post #13
chimeracoder wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And I will also blame Obama for continuing this mess He didn't just continue it; he doubled down on it. For some reason, Obama receives credit for relaxing laws on medical marijuana, but the reality is the opposite. Obama actually increased the rate of crackdowns on dispensaries in states with medical marijuana, and spent far more on enforcing federal marijuana laws in these states than either Bush or Clinton did[0…

Follow the money. Pharma has a lot of it, and they're willing to invest in politics to keep what they have and get even more.

> Follow the money. Pharma has a lot of it, and they're willing to invest in politics to keep what they have and get even more.

I don't think it's so simple. Big Tobacco also has a lot of money, and they have even more of an incentive for the federal ban on marijuana to be lifted. They can't really touch it while it's in this grey zone, but it's a huge amount of money that they're itching to get their hands on.

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by tobltobs »

imgabe wrote: post #15
0xfeba wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And people wonder why Trump won?!? The same Trump who's been back-tracking and 'reconsidering' all his campaign promises before he's even spent one day in office? The same people who think that a billionaire placing other billionaires in his cabinet is somehow an "outsider" to the elites and going to help them?

So, when he said these things during the campaign, they were horrible awful things that made him a lunatic idiot. But, now if he "reconsiders" these horrible idiotic things he's suddenly a backtracking flip-flopper?

Oh, come on. This kind of cheap troll shit on HN is disgusting. But oh, for the case you really don't understand: He "reconsiders" his promises like "drawning the swamp" not his idiotic accusations and lies. You can try to spin this as hard as you want, but it is obvious that everybody who elected Trump for his promises is dumb.

Re: New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil Is Really Illegal

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Post by Alupis »

tobltobs wrote: post #14
jliptzin wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was trying not to sound hyperbolic, but you're probably right.

Only about half of the public do understand the difference between science and Fox news.

> Only about half of the public do understand the difference between science and Fox news.

We can lob hand grenades at each other all day - it's not constructive.

For every Fox News, there is an MSNBC. Heck, there's even Huffington Post.

The actual science surrounding cannabis is difficult to sift through. There's decades of pseudoscience and downright fallacies that have been perpetuated by supporters on both sides of this debate.

The reality is, we're only now really starting to do real research on cannabis and it's various effects (short term, and long term). It's foolish to believe we understand everything about it - because up until recently, it was illegal in most places to even conduct research.

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