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Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Did not see that coming... The cynic in me says this is entirely about PR, but if it's not, this is a suprisingly positive step in the right direction. I'm not sure what to make of it and wonder what will come of it.

It honestly fits his MO perfectly I think. He very much values enterprise leadership over political experience.

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Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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How fast things change. November 4th:

“I think a bit strongly that Trump is probably not the right guy” for the presidency, and wouldn't be the best candidate to represent the U.S. abroad, he told CNBC.

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s economic and environmental policies “are the right ones,” Musk said.

From: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-on-donald-trump-j...

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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How fast things change. November 4th: “I think a bit strongly that Trump is probably not the right guy” for the presidency, and wouldn't be the best candidate to represent the U.S. abroad, he told CNBC. Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s economic and environmental policies “are the right ones,” Musk said. From: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-on-donald-trump-j...

It is said that Trump is not afraid of having advisors the disagree with him. Trump making Musk an advisor does no invalidate Musk's earlier position on Trump.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Did not see that coming... The cynic in me says this is entirely about PR, but if it's not, this is a suprisingly positive step in the right direction. I'm not sure what to make of it and wonder what will come of it.

It honestly fits his MO perfectly I think. He very much values enterprise leadership over political experience.

Yes, but he's a bit of a paradox in this respect because he clearly values his own opinion over everyone else. Given some of the positions he's filled, with some of the personalities he's chosen, to pick a team that's clearly liberal and forward thinking team in this aspect vs. (anecdotally, I haven't read the actual evidence supporting this) the very staunch flat earth, climate denial, intelligent design type conservatives who don't even believe in evolution in other aspects... that's a gigantic paradox to have on one team.

I don't know if having this spectrum of people is a strategic move on Trumps part for some deeper purpose or if it's just because they believe the things he believes and he's trying to make for an easy political life.

I guess in the long run, we shall see.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

#15

Literally the only good thing I have seen related to Trump's plans so far. Hopefully won't be an illusion and this would change my perception of Musk. I really hope it won't... really....

Did you read his 100 day plan? There are some terrible and scary things in there but there are also things to like. So I'd suggest reading it.

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post #15

Literally the only good thing I have seen related to Trump's plans so far. Hopefully won't be an illusion and this would change my perception of Musk. I really hope it won't... really....

Did you read his 100 day plan? There are some terrible and scary things in there but there are also things to like. So I'd suggest reading it.

I have read pieces of it and didn't find anything compelling really, but I guess it depends on the perspective.

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Kalanick is an obvious choice for Trump, being a self-proclaimed Ayn Rand fanboy.

Musk is a much more surprising choice, not just because of his obvious environmentalism. Both Kalanick and Musk are well-known for not being very worker friendly. At least Musk leads by example. He destroyed his own marriage through overwork and expects his employees to do the same.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Jeff Bezos is also on this "advisory team" and he's close to a mortal enemy of Trump.

I predict this is no more than a sunshine squad for PR reasons. Trump met with Al Gore for many hours as well, then nominated the most ardent climate change denier as head of the EPA the next day. As long as that kind of thing doesn't change (e.g. Trump literally comes out and says, "OK, I was wrong, I finally believe in climate change"), there's nothing here.

Particularly when it says, “meet with the President frequently to share their specific experience and knowledge as the President implements his economic agenda.” - this is a man too lazy and detached to even be interested in his own intelligence briefings (http://www.npr.org/2016/12/13/505348507/what-exactly-is-the-...). All evidence so far points to him not caring at all what new ideas this panel brings, if even paying attention at all.

Re: Trump Names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to Advisory Team – TheHill

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It honestly fits his MO perfectly I think. He very much values enterprise leadership over political experience.

Yes, but he's a bit of a paradox in this respect because he clearly values his own opinion over everyone else. Given some of the positions he's filled, with some of the personalities he's chosen, to pick a team that's clearly liberal and forward thinking team in this aspect vs. (anecdotally, I haven't read the actual evidence supporting this) the very staunch flat earth, climate denial, intelligent design type conser…

"in this respect because he clearly values his own opinion over everyone else."

Musk or Trump? :)

Musk might be liberal on some kind of social issues, but he's more of a libertarian than anything, he's not remotely some kind of 'bernie' guy.

Musk told his wife, as they were having their 'first dance at the wedding' - that 'he's the alpha' in the relationship. Does that sound progressive? Or how about dumping his wife who bore 5 children for a girl 1/2 his age? Prog cred?

Also " very staunch flat earth, climate denial, intelligent design type conservatives "

... this is casual bigotry on your part. 'Flat Earth'? Seriously? You're just going to throw that in?

And you do realize it was Father David LeMaitre - a Catholic Priest and Physicist, who conceived of the 'big bang'?

Anyhow - I'm not going to defend any of that necessarily, but your remarks amount to a casual kind of bigotry which is the bane of political discussion these days. Try to avoid this crude kind of stuff.

And FYI Trump was a 'NYC tough-guy Democrat' for most of his life. The Clinton's went to his and Melania's wedding for gosh sakes.

Anyhow - neither Trump nor Musk could truly be considered classically liberal or conservative in either sense of the term.

Funny: both of them are good businessmen, but neither of them have the faintest grasp of economics.

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