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Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by 0wl3x »

jetti wrote: post #3

I just can't get behind either the Surface or Macbook Pro. I had a Macbook that my wife has taken over and I'm currently rockin' an Asus ultrabook that has a 15" screen. I love the bigger screens and 13" is just way to small for me. For the price of a Surface Book I could get a Dell/HP/Lenovo with a 15" screen, 32GB of memory and a large SSD.

I agree with you. I use a surface pro 3 as my daily driver but I have two 23" monitors I plug it into. I can only use the 13" screen for movie watching and reading.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

kemiller2002 wrote: post #9

I'd be curious to see the real numbers: Again, Microsoft refuses to provide numbers but vaguely claims “our trade-in program for MacBooks was our best ever.” If you go from 5 trade ins to 7, you can site your best year ever. It doesn't mean you've made a dent. I can see that people are disappointed in the new MacBook, but there are very few I know that would just say "screw it, I'm switching platforms." Admittedly, m…

It's definitely reminiscent of Apple's marketing language, calling everything the best ever. Which isn't technically wrong, but still.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by jlebrech »

the surface studio looks great. i'd love them to come up with an IDE that takes advantage of touch.

my proposal is: the basic structure of code is represented visually via an AST, i.e the folders,files,classes,method and public variables and public variables and constants. and they could tie in tests and have test show up within that space.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by hodder »

gavi wrote: post #4

Apple should realize that most of its cash cow (iPhone) is due to Mac and developers are key to long term success.

"most of its cash cow (iPhone) is due to Mac"

Almost certainly untrue. Most iphone users are still Windows PC users. Yes the developer community is important to the iOS app lead, but most of that is due to the self selecting group of people who purchase iphones - people willing to pay for things.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by FlyingSnake »

These PR pieces are getting funnier each day.

Do people really want to switch from a rock-solid, sandboxed Unix to an inferior OS like Windows? Did people already forget the crazy days of regedit, zero app sandboxing, inconsistent installers, anti-viruses etc?

I wish more people jumped ship to Linux instead of the Apple/Windows duopoly, but if wishes were horses...

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by artursapek »

I believe it. I just abandoned Apple after years of loyalty. I looked hard at Surfaces and after considering them for a while I decided they weren't ready to be my main dev machine, so I went with a Thinkpad. But Microsoft is doing great stuff with its hardware lately.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by mishac »

hodder wrote: post #14
gavi wrote: post #4

Apple should realize that most of its cash cow (iPhone) is due to Mac and developers are key to long term success.

"most of its cash cow (iPhone) is due to Mac" Almost certainly untrue. Most iphone users are still Windows PC users. Yes the developer community is important to the iOS app lead, but most of that is due to the self selecting group of people who purchase iphones - people willing to pay for things.

It's more indirect than that: the apps exist because of Mac using developers. Without the developers having access to Xcode/Swift/etc the quality and number of apps would decline in favor of android.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by martijn_himself »

I can't believe anyone using macOS for their professional workflow would consider switching to Windows 10 despite all the criticism leveled at Apple's hardware (most of which I think is totally justified).

I use Windows professionally (for .NET development) and I think Windows 10 is still light-years behind, with an unstable, jarring OS experience full of bugs and niggles and unloved and underdeveloped touch interface. I would love the opportunity to move to macOS and iOS professionally. Fonts and UI rendering look awful on Windows compared to macOS, there is just no comparison.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by Aldo_MX »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #12
kemiller2002 wrote: post #9

I'd be curious to see the real numbers: Again, Microsoft refuses to provide numbers but vaguely claims “our trade-in program for MacBooks was our best ever.” If you go from 5 trade ins to 7, you can site your best year ever. It doesn't mean you've made a dent. I can see that people are disappointed in the new MacBook, but there are very few I know that would just say "screw it, I'm switching platforms." Admittedly, m…

It's definitely reminiscent of Apple's marketing language, calling everything the best ever. Which isn't technically wrong, but still.

Microsoft is known for playing catch-up, so this is their best catch-up ever.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by hueving »

gavi wrote: post #4

Apple should realize that most of its cash cow (iPhone) is due to Mac and developers are key to long term success.

How are they due to Mac? They outsell macs by an order of magnitude and most of the non developers I know with iPhones dont have macs.

If the implication is that developers will stop writing apps for iPhones, that's highly unlikely because money is still in vogue.

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