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10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

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Re: 10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

#11

Great idea. Much more power efficient than bus. And roads require maintenance when its raining, freezing or snowing. This thing will just work.

This entire idea is so batshit insane that anyone thinking it's a good idea really needs to recalibrate their sense of practicality.

Re: 10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

#12

Great idea. Much more power efficient than bus. And roads require maintenance when its raining, freezing or snowing. This thing will just work.

A moving sidewalk will just work in the ice and snow? Is that sarcasm?

I'm sure it will be totally fine being iced over, being inundated with salt, and will never, ever have any problems with a car being parked on it.

Re: 10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

#15
I visit Toronto quite often. They have a moving sidewalk (conveyor system) in Terminal 3 when you arrive and disembark from your plane. The video of the moving sidewalk they link looks to be the one I'm referring to and if you look at the date it's from 2009. That's probably the last year it was in operation.

In the last 2-3 years (and I'm there at least once a month) the moving sidewalks have maintenance signs on them and have never worked. As a matter of fact I put a small sticker on the belt/handrail and it hasn't moved guaranteed in about a year. It makes the walk to Customs and Immigration quite the haul.

It could be that they have disabled them permanently so people don't get to the customs/immigration area to quickly and overwhelm an already overwhelmed system. Don't know....

Re: 10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

#16
Waaaay too many moving parts if you ask me.

I have an alternative idea: Electric monowheels(or kick scooters):

-Not fixed-route.

-Barely any maintenance.

-Even the non-exploding ones cost as much as (subsidized) public transport over their lifetime.

-Same speed as this moving sidewalk and bicycles - could potentially share the bike lanes with the latter.

Two major disadvantages though are weight and usability in bad weather. I guess nothing beats cars when it comes to comfort of traveling.

Re: 10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

#17

And that's because buses are THE WORST form of transportation imaginable. Anything is better than a bus. Buses have never been the opposite of obsolete. They were always a step backwards. Trolleys with dedicated lanes make sense. When travelling distances of less than 30 miles, buses are for people who hate themselves.

Don't blame the bus, blame the system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransMilenio

Re: 10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

#18
There actually is a sidewalk conveyor belt (and some sidewalk escalators) in operation in Bilbao. I'm not sure how much of a maintenance headache it is in practice, but it does make a hilly neighborhood more easily accessible.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/walkingsf/18345027333/

Re: 10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

#19
post #17

And that's because buses are THE WORST form of transportation imaginable. Anything is better than a bus. Buses have never been the opposite of obsolete. They were always a step backwards. Trolleys with dedicated lanes make sense. When travelling distances of less than 30 miles, buses are for people who hate themselves.

Don't blame the bus, blame the system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransMilenio

BRT doesn't fix the ride-quality issue.

Re: 10 Mph Moving Sidewalks Could Make Crosstown Buses Obsolete

#20
There was a fast (10 kph) moving sidewalk in the Paris metro station "Montparnasse" for 12 years or so. It never worked out. You can't easily step on it; for years they had to have employees helping people stepping on the fast lane without falling down. And the thing broke down all the time, it was barely available half the time. Finally they replaced it with a good old fashioned 4 kph moving sidewalk.

Faster isn't always better. Moving faster is overrated.

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