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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If these allegations are proven and those responsible for these policies don't spend significant time in prison then we can no longer deny that we live in a corrupt society.

I mean, this sounds a lot like criminal kidnapping.

If abducting someone for profit isn't kidnapping then I don't know what is.

Re: Intake – American's largest psychiatric chain

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> Lauren Singer, who worked for six months at the front desk of Colorado’s Highlands Behavioral, said people who were waiting in the lobby for an assessment would ask her what it would entail. “I would frequently get yelled at for overstepping my bounds and telling them too much about the evaluation process,” Singer said. A button behind the receptionist’s desk controlled the lock to the front door of the facility, a…

There can be pernicious motives whether a facility is nominally for profit or not.

(For instance, say there is a doctor who gets paid in proportion to the time they spend treating patients at a non profit facility)

Re: Intake – American's largest psychiatric chain

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> Lauren Singer, who worked for six months at the front desk of Colorado’s Highlands Behavioral, said people who were waiting in the lobby for an assessment would ask her what it would entail. “I would frequently get yelled at for overstepping my bounds and telling them too much about the evaluation process,” Singer said. A button behind the receptionist’s desk controlled the lock to the front door of the facility, a…

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Re: Intake – American's largest psychiatric chain

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"Current and former employees from at least 10 UHS hospitals in nine states said they were under pressure to fill beds by almost any method — which sometimes meant exaggerating people’s symptoms or twisting their words to make them seem suicidal — and to hold them until their insurance payments ran out."

Don't worry, free-market ideologues will coolly tell you. Their logic will seem airtight: over time, if Intake's psychiatric wards were really, truly locking up sane people who don't want to be locked up, the reputation of these facilities would no doubt have already suffered by now, and the company would have already been forced to close them. These incidents can only be isolated cases, regardless of the evidence. The profit motive will keep the company in check.

If you believe that, you haven't read the article.

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I should hope this comes as no surprise to anyone. Every single psychiatrist I've ever visited had the same policy, only their lock was medicine rather than a door (outpatient vs inpatient). I feel bad for the lady because she didn't know any better and joked about suicide, but shouldn't it be common sense you don't tell anyone about that--you don't even joke about it-- especially to a doctor with the power to commit…

> but shouldn't it be common sense you don't tell anyone about that--you don't even joke about it--especially to a doctor with the power to commit you? It shouldn't be, because doctors should have the sense and motivation to differentiate a joke from a true statement. It's just a really sad statement that our society has traps like this (that people really need to be aware of), which can really screw you over.

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Re: Intake – American's largest psychiatric chain

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American asylums are a perfect example of the sin and corruption at the root of American society: dehumanizing and illegal detainment of human beings to preserve power and profits. ... In the 1970s, a researcher sent fake (healthy) patients to asylums. They were loaded with powerful antipsychotics and not allowed to leave until they faked the cures the psychologists expected to see. When the fake patients were all ou…

It's tempting for some people to think "That was 40 years ago, and it couldn't happen now". Things are much better (if only because all those big institutions were closed), but we stills see examples. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-held-... This woman told her doctor that President Obama followed her on Twitter. That's very easy to check, 5 minutes tops. No one checked, they assumed it was a d…

But there is a shortage of people with (good enough) insurance who would have an actual need for those beds.

The article even indicated this:

Current and former employees from at least 10 UHS hospitals in nine states said they were under pressure to fill beds by almost any method — which sometimes meant exaggerating people’s symptoms or twisting their words to make them seem suicidal — and to hold them until their insurance payments ran out.

Re: Intake – American's largest psychiatric chain

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Psychiatry in America is an ongoing "crime against humanity". The third world gets better results for their mental health patients because they can't afford the pharmaceutical industry's FDA-certified psychotropic medications.

In October 2016 I found videos of my friend before the first hospital. She quipped about alcohol and drugs, but sounded "normal". We were frying donuts.

About two weeks after the videos were filmed, my friend ran out of alcohol. Her mother called the "crisis team", who took her to the hospital. I don't know what happened, exactly, but I assume they treated her with Haldol, an old cheap "tranquilizer" that is sold to patients as an "anti-psychotic".

But... It's been known since the late 1970's that anti-psychotics make psychosis worse over time. Robert Whitaker wrote "the case against anti-psychotics" [1] to provide as succinct a case against this class of drugs' use as possible.

[1] https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/07/the-case-against-antips...

After being given this psychosis-provoking drug, my friend was diagnosed as "persistently disabled." This diagnosis (professional opinion) is disproved by my videos, but these have never been viewed by any judge.

Anti-psychotics are also known to make cocaine users more likely to use cocaine, which is known to cause psychosis. Alcohol withdrawal is also a known cause of psychosis [2]. My friend told the psychiatrists that she'd been drinking 2 bottles of liquor a day (methadone side effect, I think), and using cocaine, but they gave her anti-psychotics anyways.

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance-induced_psychosis#IC...

My friend escaped briefly from her court-ordered medications in March 2016.... Then she was given an SSRI "anti-depressant" in May 2016, which caused much anxiety, which led to her getting arrested... She's now being forced to take tranquilizers again.

I'm still trying to protect my friend from her doctors. When a petition to the court is dismissed "without prejudice" it means that you can correct the errors and re-file. I've re-filed twice, but I don't think the judge even read the second and third petitions. I guess I'm going to the court of appeals next...

edit 1: clarification... edit 2: added the paragraph about getting ordered by the court to submit to psychiatry. edit 3: added sentence about the third world

edit 4: Oh my... This buzzfeed article is about "Universal Health Services". My friend stayed at two of their locations: http://www.uhsinc.com/locations/uhs-facilities-map-usa/

edit 5: I actually went to talk to an investigator with the state attorney general's office this morning - his department was "health fraud and abuse". He was not optimistic of being able to find something to investigate. I'm going to print this buzzfeed article and take it over.

edit 6: forgot to include link for [1]

Re: Intake – American's largest psychiatric chain

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post #14

"Current and former employees from at least 10 UHS hospitals in nine states said they were under pressure to fill beds by almost any method — which sometimes meant exaggerating people’s symptoms or twisting their words to make them seem suicidal — and to hold them until their insurance payments ran out." Don't worry, free-market ideologues will coolly tell you. Their logic will seem airtight: over time, if Intake's p…

I never fully understood free market ideologies because no market can ever really be "free" in the theoretical sense. "Free markets" are based off of a set of assumptions that can never quite be true.

Re: Intake – American's largest psychiatric chain

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I have a (relatively minor) nit-pick with some of the language in the article.

Early in the article the author writes "Current and former employees from at least 10 UHS hospitals in nine states said they were under pressure..."

However, a few paragraphs later she writes "But scores of employees from at least a dozen UHS hospitals said those facilities tried to keep beds filled even at the expense..."

I don't understand why the employees are from "at least" a certain number of hospitals, unless her sources were unclear about where they worked. And why does this number change?

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