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Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

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Re: Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

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If this goes through, best of luck to everyone from Pebble and Fitbit. Hardware is tough, but we all need it.

Can anyone think of an example where you take two failing tech companies, merge them, and it works out?

XM and Sirius got together. Not sure if it's working out or not but they're still an operating business which is better than where they were headed pre-merger.

Re: Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

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post #3

Lord why? 40M for engineers who will quit as soon as possible? What is the point? 《Edit》honestly I read the whole article, please explain how this makes sense from a fitbit perspective.

is there data or statistics about this topic? i'm sure someone with access to this data could determine if market impact and recruitment costs would make it worthwhile

Anecdote from a recent acquisition experience:

~60 engineers and managers retained as part of acquisition. 1 left before acquisition was final. ~15 left before 1 year cliff. ~30 left within 6 months after the cliff. ~15 are still there after 2 years.

There was a company wide layoff a few months after the 1 year cliff. The acquired teams weren't hit as hard, because it was understood that people would leave on their own.

Re: Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

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post #3

Lord why? 40M for engineers who will quit as soon as possible? What is the point? 《Edit》honestly I read the whole article, please explain how this makes sense from a fitbit perspective.

I imagine everyone with stock is quite pissed after losing out on the Citizen deal. A promise of a bonus can't compare to that.

Re: Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

#15

If this goes through, best of luck to everyone from Pebble and Fitbit. Hardware is tough, but we all need it.

> Hardware is tough, but we all need it. As the 2016 market has shown, "need" is perhaps too strong a word for a smart watch.

Hard to back up that claim. Fitbit should be doing about $2.4B in revenue this year. That's only about 22% of the global market share.

Re: Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

#17

If this goes through, best of luck to everyone from Pebble and Fitbit. Hardware is tough, but we all need it.

Can anyone think of an example where you take two failing tech companies, merge them, and it works out?

Fitbit had revenues of $14.5 million in 2011, $76.4 million in 2012, $271.1 million in 2013, $754 million in 2014, $1.8B in 2015 and is expected to do $2.4B in 2016.

'Failing' in what sense?

Re: Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

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post #3

Lord why? 40M for engineers who will quit as soon as possible? What is the point? 《Edit》honestly I read the whole article, please explain how this makes sense from a fitbit perspective.

seems like the majority of money isn't going to the engineers but other outstanding expenses, they are just taking a salaried job at Fitbit

Re: Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

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post #16

Shame. I really liked my Pebble Time, and I was looking forward to buying a Time 2. The pebble is the only smart watch that is still a good watch.

You should try a Garmin.

Garmin has been exceptional since before 2007 (that's when I bought my 305). It's been doing really well in revenue and growth recently.

Re: Fitbit Is Close to Buying Software Assets from Pebble

#20
The key focus of this acquisition seems to be the acquisition of assets (read 'IP'). Fitbit has had a rough time battling Jawbone in court (though ironically Jawbone has been the sufferer in the market while Fitbit revenue keeps going up). I feel that has made them cautious about IP and this is the second acquisition (after Coin) that's been purely focussed on acquiring IP so that:

1. Others can't acquire and sue them

2. They can sue others if needed

Other than IP, it's hard to justify their spend in acquiring the company (they already have hardware and software/app).

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