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Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time

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half of america is asleep all the time. I spoke to a lady on the street who told me vaccines cause autism. I told her it was true, because my puppies have autism. See, they have puppy autism I explained. Ever since they got their vaccines, they stopped talking. She nodded. And I continued on my way.

Please don't introduce politics to a thread unnecessarily, especially this week:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404

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half of america is asleep all the time. I spoke to a lady on the street who told me vaccines cause autism. I told her it was true, because my puppies have autism. See, they have puppy autism I explained. Ever since they got their vaccines, they stopped talking. She nodded. And I continued on my way.

Please don't introduce politics to a thread unnecessarily, especially this week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404

I feel like this isnt political?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't introduce politics to a thread unnecessarily, especially this week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404

I feel like this isnt political?

It's off-topic with respect to the submission. It's also a reference to the anti-vaxxer debate, which is definitely political. It's also a smear aimed at half of the population, so it's uncivil as well.

Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time

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You know how every generation conceives of the brain as a machine that's analogous to the latest technology of that generation? Like in the 19th century, the brain was a steam engine, and then in the 20th it was a computer? Well, apparently now the brain is a smartphone.

I'd like to extrapolate this further: We won't have true AI until mankind explains the human brain as a "form of AI"

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I think we are getting closer to furthering the concept that dreaming isn't just a side-effect of thinking (or simply a defrag/clean-up routine upon the previous day's thoughts or the mind's expectations for tomorrow). It is itself the key to the thinking process, and sits above and commands the other "agents". It helps us deal with uncertainty and lack of rationality inherent in the universe and our incomplete understanding of it.

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post #14

You know how every generation conceives of the brain as a machine that's analogous to the latest technology of that generation? Like in the 19th century, the brain was a steam engine, and then in the 20th it was a computer? Well, apparently now the brain is a smartphone.

I'd like to extrapolate this further: We won't have true AI until mankind explains the human brain as a "form of AI"

or We won't have true AI until AI explains the human brain as a "form of AI"

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If our brains would work fully all the time, our head would boil and explode. I don't see how this is so new.

I am glad that functioning of the brain is understood much better. Also, this could be utilized if we could find ways to increase focus, maybe even artificially, well artificially until brain gets trained for full flow state for example.

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I think we are getting closer to furthering the concept that dreaming isn't just a side-effect of thinking (or simply a defrag/clean-up routine upon the previous day's thoughts or the mind's expectations for tomorrow). It is itself the key to the thinking process, and sits above and commands the other "agents". It helps us deal with uncertainty and lack of rationality inherent in the universe and our incomplete under…

I don't understand this obsession with the "purpose" of dreaming. As far as I have experienced its just noise on the wire that we sometimes are conscious enough to recognize.

Having spent enough time in extremely sleep-deprived states for projects recently, I've experienced firsthand a lot of funky stuff going on (e.g. falling asleep and waking up with a full page of class notes in front of me, or realizing that I've started 'dreaming' while editing a document, the dream being seeded by the words I was processing.)

Re: Portions of the brain fall asleep and wake back up all the time

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Taking some time to reflect on and consider my own thinking behavior has been interesting. Just like exploring any other system, subjecting myself to sleep stress (in order to meet aggressive deadlines) has allowed me to see what happens when certain things fail, revealing functional boundaries.

I see it as kind of analogous to when you starve a circuit/device of power - it behaves in unexpected ways, revealing implementation details.

Some examples that I remember: after a particularly long all nighter (I was a freshman in college and wanted to try it while I could still do it by choice and not necessity) I was editing an article I was writing for the school magazine. I was starting to fade and realized that I couldn't read and comprehend well-formed, meaningful sentences that I had just written.

I've noticed that when sleep deprived I notice different things and have a more diverse set of emergent thoughts/recall events. For example, today I noticed the plug for an electric oven at a restaurant I have not only been to at least 100 times, but have worked at for months. I randomly remembered the lyrics to China's five-year-plan song walking home from class. I will suddenly remember and think fragments in Spanish, despite not touching it for years.

Truly, it appears the nature of effective cognition is restricting all of the many responses to stimuli to those that are useful and relevant, and I think the parts of the brain that do that may have 'fallen asleep' in all those instances.

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