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Firebug extension has been discontinued

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Re: Firebug extension has been discontinued

#11

Post by nkkollaw »

I remember using Firebug years ago and it was absolutely awesome. It made developing on Firefox about 100 times easier than on any other browser.

Then, of course Chrome came out and Firefox added built-in dev tools, so it makes sense to stop development.

Still, such a good product.

Re: Firebug extension has been discontinued

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Post by ars »

Nooooo.

I use both and Firebug is so much better :( :( :(

For example Firebug outputs the entire nested array, while the dev tools just say "Array[len]" for nested arrays (or objects).

The problem with that is if you are debugging and something changes the values inside that array (after you output it) you have no record of the old values, since clicking on the Array[len] shows you the new values, not the old ones.

In general that's my biggest problem with the Dev Tools - it likes to reuse windows, and make you click on things for more info. So if you click on Network and want to see the response from two requests at once you can't - both show their info in the same window, and overwrite each other.

In firebug in contrast you click + and it simply expands, inline, and you can see both at once.

I don't suppose anyone knows a setting I can change to fix that and make Dev Tools more usable?

Re: Firebug extension has been discontinued

#15

Post by jeffjose »

Epskampie wrote: post #3

In my opinion Firebug started a revolution in web development, making JS webapps feasible for regular devs for the first time. Thank you for giving us a lot of the interfaces and tools that live on as "developer tools" in today's browsers.

Precisely. The web-developer world we take for granted was singlehandedly brought to life by Firebug. What used to be alert("foo") was replaced with console.logs, and there was no going back. Its probably a good thing that Firebug is discontinued. It has fared well, and made the world a better place.

Re: Firebug extension has been discontinued

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Post by navs »

Epskampie wrote: post #3

In my opinion Firebug started a revolution in web development, making JS webapps feasible for regular devs for the first time. Thank you for giving us a lot of the interfaces and tools that live on as "developer tools" in today's browsers.

It certainly made it easier for me to copy code and dissect it :)

Re: Firebug extension has been discontinued

#17

Post by abritinthebay »

ars wrote: post #14

Nooooo. I use both and Firebug is so much better :( :( :( For example Firebug outputs the entire nested array, while the dev tools just say "Array[len]" for nested arrays (or objects). The problem with that is if you are debugging and something changes the values inside that array (after you output it) you have no record of the old values, since clicking on the Array[len] shows you the new values, not the old ones. I…

it's a bit hacky but you can solve that with:

console.log(JSON.parse(JSON.stringify(myArrToDebug)));

It fully clones the array (impossible to have odd refs hang around).

Re: Firebug extension has been discontinued

#19

Post by indolering »

vuanotinx wrote: post #9
anonbanker wrote: post #4

Been a while since I've done web development; are the Firefox Dev Tools as good as Firebug?

No, they lack a few features, and what's even worse, they are buggy sometimes. For example, the styles panel disappears for me completely sometimes. I'm really sad to see Firebug go.

debug.html is coming : )
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