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Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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If Reddit can not handle free speech, Voat will. Once Voat is overrun by the enemies of free expression, someone else will take the helm and continue. Such is the nature of a free Internet.

Hacker News is already overran by "freedom haters".

I don't see anyone fleeing for greener pasture.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

#12
post #2

Everyone I don't like is Hitler!

It's more like "Some of the people I don't like have various Hitler-esque tendencies".

I mean, shit, Obama has consolidated a helluva lot of power. Has Americans killed extra-judicially. I don't call him Hitler.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

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post #8

If Reddit can not handle free speech, Voat will. Once Voat is overrun by the enemies of free expression, someone else will take the helm and continue. Such is the nature of a free Internet.

I would be perfectly happy if these "free speech lovers" were to decamp en masse for Voat.

Just because you disagree with their opinion does not mean you should want to kick them out. They are not acting upon their views in any way that affects you. Totally free expression is crucial and in no way will it affect you physically. I disagree with almost everything they stand for, but their presence is crucial for an open discussion of issues in our global societies.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

#15

> The Alt Right is a racial movement and has always been a racial movement. Race is at the very core of the alt right and there is absolutely no way to be alt right without discussing racial realism, especially from a white perspective Just because you rebrand racism as "racial realism" doesn't mean you aren't racist and Reddit has no appetite for hosting racist speech. Go start your own Reddit if you don't like it.…

>Just because you rebrand racism as "racial realism" doesn't mean you aren't racist and Reddit has no appetite for hosting racist speech.

Why not? People have been rebranding racism for years.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

#16
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be perfectly happy if these "free speech lovers" were to decamp en masse for Voat.

Just because you disagree with their opinion does not mean you should want to kick them out. They are not acting upon their views in any way that affects you. Totally free expression is crucial and in no way will it affect you physically. I disagree with almost everything they stand for, but their presence is crucial for an open discussion of issues in our global societies.

Reddit is under no obligation to support, nurture, or pay for the resources required to keep this up. They are under no obligation to implicitly condone this content, as they have taken on an editorial role in the past and now anything they don't ban is in contrast to those things they have. As you pointed out, it's the web. There are many web hosts that will refuse you service for hosting pornography. That doesn't prevent anyone from finding one that will allow it.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

#17
post #2

Everyone I don't like is Hitler!

It's more like "Some of the people I don't like have various Hitler-esque tendencies".

>Donald Trump has poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!

>He has?

>No, but are we gonna wait around until he does!?

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

#18
post #11
post #8

If Reddit can not handle free speech, Voat will. Once Voat is overrun by the enemies of free expression, someone else will take the helm and continue. Such is the nature of a free Internet.

Hacker News is already overran by "freedom haters". I don't see anyone fleeing for greener pasture.

How would you see that? It isn't the real world where you could see less people around or something.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

#19

throw r/the_donald in there with them

Yes! Lets silence the opinions of everyone we disagree with! Lets take away their places to talk so they have to skulk in the shadows! Lets pretend there's no merit to listening to the thoughts of millions of people!

Why stop with removing their access to Reddit? Why not make it downright illegal to talk about it? Why don't we make it illegal to think about it, too?

I'm exceptionally left-leaning and I don't agree with removing these people from Reddit, it's censorship of views we don't like, plain and simple. Are we really so childish that we believe that if we stop these people talking about it then the problem will go away? They'll just move elsewhere and common discourse will be more difficult, people will be more entombed in their own biased beliefs.

Re: Reddit Gearing Up to Ban or Quarantine the Alt Right Subreddit

#20
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be perfectly happy if these "free speech lovers" were to decamp en masse for Voat.

Just because you disagree with their opinion does not mean you should want to kick them out. They are not acting upon their views in any way that affects you. Totally free expression is crucial and in no way will it affect you physically. I disagree with almost everything they stand for, but their presence is crucial for an open discussion of issues in our global societies.

And reddit has on multiple occasions refused people the right to "totally free expression". Freedom of speech is about the government not shutting you down for airing your views, not a company.
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