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The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by intoverflow2 »

drvdevd wrote: post #4

So: > It’s quite clear – Welcome to the future of Apple’s hybrid ARM/x86 platform Meaning, in a nutshell, that we have two different system "loading" policies (the ARM policy and the x86 policy) having fun together on the same disk? Three if you count macOS and EFI as two different systems really. So naturally this would make disk imaging complex. Seriously, why wasn't this documented (or better documented)? I'm quit…

> questions is mind boggling

Becomes less mind boggling when you take this hint that Apple genuinely doesn't care about their machines being used in scenarios that require this anymore.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by hellofunk »

simonh wrote: post #5

From the article: > Good news everyone: Mac imaging isn't dead... yet. Also the article title doesn't mention breaking anything. So why does the title of the HN post say disk imaging has been broken?

Because the OP who posted this link was trying to be provocative and made up the link title.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by elcapitan »

elmigranto wrote: post #8
curiousgal wrote: post #2

For a company that targets Professionals, some Apple policies seems rather hostile towards them.

> targets Professionals All we know, there's a word "pro" in marketing materials (includes product names). Who they actually target with that is Apple's internal affairs, and everyone should judge for himself, whether it matches one's requirements. Some people are fine with X limitation, but that doesn't mean they aren't "serious" users. Some people find limitation X to be a deal breaker, but that doesn't invalidate…

>> targets Professionals

> All we know, there's a word "pro" in marketing materials (includes product names). Who they actually target with that is Apple's internal affairs, and everyone should judge for himself, whether it matches one's requirements.

So nowadays Apple's "pro" is more like the "pro" in Playstation Pro.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by briandear »

curiousgal wrote: post #2

For a company that targets Professionals, some Apple policies seems rather hostile towards them.

I would argue that "pro" doesn't mean "user in an aggressively locked down IT department."

I am a pro and I never need this.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by acqq »

hellofunk wrote: post #12

The title of this HN post has been edited and does not reflect the article. The correct title is: "Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros"

Yes, admins, please, the current title is against HN title non-editorializing policies.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by nerdponx »

drvdevd wrote: post #9
elmigranto wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> targets Professionals All we know, there's a word "pro" in marketing materials (includes product names). Who they actually target with that is Apple's internal affairs, and everyone should judge for himself, whether it matches one's requirements. Some people are fine with X limitation, but that doesn't mean they aren't "serious" users. Some people find limitation X to be a deal breaker, but that doesn't invalidate…

Unfortunately, in this case the "pro" is the admin who has to manage the Mac fleet or the developer who has to use a Mac at their place of employment. This is all being due to their widespread popularity as "pro" devices. If Apple plays fast and loose with this as a marketing term only, when will this "pro" market open to competition? I suppose it already has, judging from this article.

Except it's not. At least not until someone starts making aluminum unibody laptops with Retina displays running some enterprise Linux distro in which everything on the desktop "just works" including printing and networking.

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Post by Remmib »

iSnow wrote: post #3

Another indication that Apple is no longer committed to professional customers of their computer line and their needs - iDevices get the required admin tools, but the target demographics for their computers are consumers and web dev shops where everyone tends to their systems.

I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market...

The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absolutely gorgeous, but it still comes with a prohibitively small SSD. They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense.

I just can't figure out why they aren't doing this.

Re: The Untouchables – Apple’s new OS “activation” for Touch Bar MacBook Pros

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Post by vetinari »

nerdponx wrote: post #17
drvdevd wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, in this case the "pro" is the admin who has to manage the Mac fleet or the developer who has to use a Mac at their place of employment. This is all being due to their widespread popularity as "pro" devices. If Apple plays fast and loose with this as a marketing term only, when will this "pro" market open to competition? I suppose it already has, judging from this article.

Except it's not. At least not until someone starts making aluminum unibody laptops with Retina displays running some enterprise Linux distro in which everything on the desktop "just works" including printing and networking.

Printing and networking in Linux is a solved problem. HiDPI is going through a growing pains, and some things for enterprises are better on Linux than macOS (have you seen what FreeIPA can do? You can have Kerberos+OTP authenticated VPN, for example).

What's wrong with all the PC laptops is an attention to detail. Just have look at the recent Dell XPS thread. I mean - coil whine? In 2016? Seriously?

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