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Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

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Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

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Telling people to "toughen up" is missing the point. The University of Chicago is built around creating Nobel prize winners (which they do a damn good job of it). But they also drive students so hard that they often fail out or just commit suicide. No joke. But they don't mind sacrificing these people because the select group that survives will shit nobel prizes. Survivor bias will tell you they are a model school, but I don't think so.

Our culture is obsessed with degrees-- not learning. Because of this the education system doesn't let teachers actually do their job. In elementary and high school it's truly unconscionable how students pass from grade to grade. By the time they get to college it's way too late. Tenured hard-ass professors are the only people who can get away with it-- but if you think you can flunk half your students and still make tenure you're delusional. Incentives are completely misaligned. Make no mistake, Education Inc. exists to further the institution, not the student.

Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

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Millenials, those born between '78 and '95 That's shifted a good five or ten years back from what I thought. I was born in '82; my parents are Boomers. I thought that made me Generation X. I. . . I don't want to be a Millenial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X "Generation X, commonly abbreviated to Gen X, is the generation born after the baby boom ended[1][2], with earliest birth dates used by researchers ranging from 1961 to the latest 1981"

Sorry dude, you're very much a Millenial.

Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

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post #4

Millenials, those born between '78 and '95 That's shifted a good five or ten years back from what I thought. I was born in '82; my parents are Boomers. I thought that made me Generation X. I. . . I don't want to be a Millenial.

See if these things formed part of your childhood: - Atari / Donkey Kong / Pacman etc (the originals) - Commodore 64 - Indiana Jones + Star Wars (at the cinemas, the original movies)

No? You're not generation X, sorry.

Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

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This guy is lying to his students by riding the wave of this lingering assumption that contemporary conventional schooling works to garner the results that remedy what he is complaining about.It doesn't,and it never will. Conventional education is a crock of shit and so is this guy... and the "millennials".

Bypass it all be creating alternatives like this:

khanacademy.org

This kind-of-thing is the future regardless.

Problem solved.

He's one of the few that "survived" all that bullshit and is doing it how it should be done.

Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

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post #4

Millenials, those born between '78 and '95 That's shifted a good five or ten years back from what I thought. I was born in '82; my parents are Boomers. I thought that made me Generation X. I. . . I don't want to be a Millenial.

I was born in 80, and consider myself on the cusp. I identify w/ X in some ways and Millenials in others. It was actually highly amusing in college, there was a noticable shift between the oldest of my peers and the youngest of my peers, which when I described it to some of the older ones said they didn't notice between a similar variance of their peers. Obviously such things are fuzzy, but that is the general feeling we noticed. Overall 'start time' is usuall referenced between 80 and 85 somewhere. Generational stuff used in this sense is wierder still because those born in 1960 have a completely different gen X experience than those born in 1980. I mean they were adults when I was born...

Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

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post #13
post #4

Millenials, those born between '78 and '95 That's shifted a good five or ten years back from what I thought. I was born in '82; my parents are Boomers. I thought that made me Generation X. I. . . I don't want to be a Millenial.

See if these things formed part of your childhood: - Atari / Donkey Kong / Pacman etc (the originals) - Commodore 64 - Indiana Jones + Star Wars (at the cinemas, the original movies) No? You're not generation X, sorry.

Dukes of Hazard. Seriously, I have used this as the generational dividing line since they were still calling gen X 'slackers' in a derogatory way.

Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

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Somewhat tangentially, I had very few writing teachers/profs that forced me to write better. The ones that did were not the hard-asses willing to bruise my ego and fill the page with red ink; they were the ones who could destroy my thesis and render my examples impotent with 3 comments at the end of the paper. Invariably, if I got a teacher/prof who bled all over my creations, I'd start with B-s at the beginning and…

I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you. The ego needs to be bruised in order to deflate the head of the youngster so learning can begin.

I too had my ego bruised and spirits crushed by hard-marking, discipline demanding examiners. In each case, they're the only the ones I remember. All the wishy-washy as-long-as-you-tried ones are as forgotten as they were useless to my learning.

Half the battle in teaching young people is making them realise the scope of the things they don't know, so they can appreciate how far they have to travel. Call me old-school, but I don't see how you can do this without brusing a few egos and crushing a few spirits. It's precisely the ego that says 'this is good enough, I'll submit that'.

Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

#19
Now this is funny in at least two ways. First is this cute but silly idea that the study of PR is so difficult and rigorous that it makes people cry.

The second way this is funny, is just imagining young PR flacks crying because their papers were graded badly. That just warms up my heart. I mean the thought that a human being would be so depraved (or is forced by the economy into such a depraved condition) as to dream about being a PR person when they grow up is rather depressing. But thinking of them suffering along the way is a bit of a bright spot.

Unfortunately, the whole thing was written by a PR professor so I just don't believe it. He is probably just exaggerating in order to establish some cred for himself as a tough no-nonsense professor and also to create the idea that PR is a rigorous field of study.

Re: Dear Millenials: Your Parents Lied to You

#20

Who are preferable, today's "helicopter parents" or the "because I say so" parents of the previous generation? Or the "Beat you till you cry" parents of the generation before. Or the "Off to the factory, brat" parents, etc.

Probably some happy medium. Helicopter parents don't really give kids a chance to just learn to be themselves...
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