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Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by dajohnson89 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #2

My first thought: what ? Only 50%? I mean, it feels like the entire world is on-line, but the truth is, that's only less than half of it. There's almost 4 billion people who don't participate in this important aspect of human life. > "In 2016, people no longer go online, they are online. The spread of 3G and 4G networks across the world had brought the internet to more and more people," True, and this is cool. I stil…

>I mean, it feels like the entire world is on-line...

This is the "bubble" that is spoken of post-election.

Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by internaut »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #2

My first thought: what ? Only 50%? I mean, it feels like the entire world is on-line, but the truth is, that's only less than half of it. There's almost 4 billion people who don't participate in this important aspect of human life. > "In 2016, people no longer go online, they are online. The spread of 3G and 4G networks across the world had brought the internet to more and more people," True, and this is cool. I stil…

I take it you've seen urbit.org TeMPOrL?

For a number of technical reasons (security and scaling) I've come to believe that urbit or something much like it is inevitable.

IPv6 might solve the address space problem but the high level problems (e.g. constant privacy invasions) are such a clusterfuck that it is crippling IoT and other potential growth sources.

I'm happy to shill for them because there really aren't that many people doing truly new things with computation in Silicon Valley.

Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by notahacker »

vwcx wrote: post #5
TeMPOraL wrote: post #2

My first thought: what ? Only 50%? I mean, it feels like the entire world is on-line, but the truth is, that's only less than half of it. There's almost 4 billion people who don't participate in this important aspect of human life. > "In 2016, people no longer go online, they are online. The spread of 3G and 4G networks across the world had brought the internet to more and more people," True, and this is cool. I stil…

> "There's almost 4 billion people who don't participate in this important aspect of human life." And yet there are almost 4 billion people who don't know the mental clarity of spending a day with someone they care about devoid of the glow from a screen. Grass is always greener...

Most of the 4 billion people have spent days away from the screen at a time, and pretty much all of them have some level of choice over how much or little screen time they have (jobs where use of computers is not mandatory still exist)

That's the difference.

Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by CaptSpify »

rubidium wrote: post #7
alaskamiller wrote: post #6

I signed on in 1996 when I was 12. There were ~36 million people. In 1998 that quadrupled. And now 20 years later we're at 3.75 billion. From cowboy land to megatropolis. Things feel more crowded, more busy, and more annoying. But the internet is still magical. Sometimes you jump around and next thing you know you're up at 2 in the morning wondering what's the big deal about pizza shops and Wikileaks and Hillary Clin…

I do hope you're being sarcastic. "But the internet is still magical. Sometimes you jump around and next thing you know you're up at 2 in the morning wondering what's the big deal about pizza shops and Wikileaks and Hillary Clinton or why this girl is smooshing her face into bread." That's magical?! Sounds more like the epitome of a pathetic, consumerist life.

> Sounds more like the epitome of a pathetic, consumerist life.

I get what your saying, but the point I take away is: I can research whatever I want, no matter how silly, right now. I can learn quantum physics. I can learn to play an instrument. I can research statistics on the latest election. And, of course, I can watch cat videos.

Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by TeMPOraL »

internaut wrote: post #12
TeMPOraL wrote: post #2

My first thought: what ? Only 50%? I mean, it feels like the entire world is on-line, but the truth is, that's only less than half of it. There's almost 4 billion people who don't participate in this important aspect of human life. > "In 2016, people no longer go online, they are online. The spread of 3G and 4G networks across the world had brought the internet to more and more people," True, and this is cool. I stil…

I take it you've seen urbit.org TeMPOrL? For a number of technical reasons (security and scaling) I've come to believe that urbit or something much like it is inevitable. IPv6 might solve the address space problem but the high level problems (e.g. constant privacy invasions) are such a clusterfuck that it is crippling IoT and other potential growth sources. I'm happy to shill for them because there really aren't that…

I haven't looked into it yet, though I'm aware it exists.

What I wrote about the three-way decoupling is a result of some time I spent thinking "the Star Trek way" - i.e. how would the cloud ecosystem look like if it was made primarily to be useful, as opposed to sucking money out of people.

Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by amazon_not »

orly_bookz wrote: post #3

It's a strange world we live in that people the world over might well get basic internet infrastructure (even if only a cell phone with limited service rather than high-bandwidth cable) while lacking other portions of infrastructure many in the "first world" take for granted.

Internet infrastructure is fairly easy to install compared to other infrastructure.

Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by antisthenes »

CaptSpify wrote: post #14
rubidium wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do hope you're being sarcastic. "But the internet is still magical. Sometimes you jump around and next thing you know you're up at 2 in the morning wondering what's the big deal about pizza shops and Wikileaks and Hillary Clinton or why this girl is smooshing her face into bread." That's magical?! Sounds more like the epitome of a pathetic, consumerist life.

> Sounds more like the epitome of a pathetic, consumerist life. I get what your saying, but the point I take away is: I can research whatever I want, no matter how silly, right now. I can learn quantum physics. I can learn to play an instrument. I can research statistics on the latest election. And, of course, I can watch cat videos.

I think the only lesson here is to try and take the best parts from whatever your partake in, be it friendships, relationships or the internet.

Or maybe rather: apply the tool at hand to the best of your ability and with purpose only.

Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by someguydave »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #15
internaut wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you've seen urbit.org TeMPOrL? For a number of technical reasons (security and scaling) I've come to believe that urbit or something much like it is inevitable. IPv6 might solve the address space problem but the high level problems (e.g. constant privacy invasions) are such a clusterfuck that it is crippling IoT and other potential growth sources. I'm happy to shill for them because there really aren't that…

I haven't looked into it yet, though I'm aware it exists. What I wrote about the three-way decoupling is a result of some time I spent thinking "the Star Trek way" - i.e. how would the cloud ecosystem look like if it was made primarily to be useful, as opposed to sucking money out of people.

>three-way decoupling

The trouble is that it seems that nearly every internet corp sees "decoupling" as an existential threat.

Re: Almost half the world will be online by end of 2016

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Post by internaut »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #15
internaut wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you've seen urbit.org TeMPOrL? For a number of technical reasons (security and scaling) I've come to believe that urbit or something much like it is inevitable. IPv6 might solve the address space problem but the high level problems (e.g. constant privacy invasions) are such a clusterfuck that it is crippling IoT and other potential growth sources. I'm happy to shill for them because there really aren't that…

I haven't looked into it yet, though I'm aware it exists. What I wrote about the three-way decoupling is a result of some time I spent thinking "the Star Trek way" - i.e. how would the cloud ecosystem look like if it was made primarily to be useful, as opposed to sucking money out of people.

I agree with decoupling. The question is: How?

Funny you should mention visiting the stars since Urbit's founder was thinking about Mars.

His thesis is that we need to throw the whole thing out and start over, then graft the alien technology on top of our existing stack.

https://moronlab.blogspot.ie/2010/01/urbit-functional-progra...

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