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California Secession Making Headway in Silicon Valley Community

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Re: California Secession Making Headway in Silicon Valley Community

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post #7

States cannot legally secede unilaterally, and there's a no chance in hell Congress would approve. Unless you're willing to form a militia against the US Army that surely would be sent in--which, ironically for California, is more difficult because of the stricter gun control. (Reason had a great headline yesterday--something like, "Trump's election makes liberals realize appeal of limited government.")

What about Florida? Can we dump Florida? ;)

Re: California Secession Making Headway in Silicon Valley Community

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California is not a monolith --like Hispanics are not a monolithic bloc (~30% voted republican). The central valley and the sierras are conservative and they have the water. Water from the Colorado? Goodbye! Welcome to the waterless republic of coastal California right next to the state of inland California with all the water.

Re: California Secession Making Headway in Silicon Valley Community

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I support #Calexit and I hope this will not just be saying and playing. Trump is a successful businessman and he knows strategy very well. He must already have plans for those protestors, so for those who are really serious about this issue, we should not give in easily.

Don't want to sound like an extremist, but I do support #Calexit. The economic impact of California is tremendous not only for US but for the whole world, therefore, it's a great bargaining power against Trump.

How this not extremist, your protesting some hypothetical scenario you have on your mind? There is nothing concrete to protest. Liberals are protesting a Democrat who won running as a Republican, it's hard to understand why that upsets liberals. He's for gay marriage. He's for abortion, he more socially liberal than clinton and less pro war than clinton

Re: California Secession Making Headway in Silicon Valley Community

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I support #Calexit and I hope this will not just be saying and playing. Trump is a successful businessman and he knows strategy very well. He must already have plans for those protestors, so for those who are really serious about this issue, we should not give in easily.

Don't want to sound like an extremist, but I do support #Calexit. The economic impact of California is tremendous not only for US but for the whole world, therefore, it's a great bargaining power against Trump.

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Re: California Secession Making Headway in Silicon Valley Community

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post #7

States cannot legally secede unilaterally, and there's a no chance in hell Congress would approve. Unless you're willing to form a militia against the US Army that surely would be sent in--which, ironically for California, is more difficult because of the stricter gun control. (Reason had a great headline yesterday--something like, "Trump's election makes liberals realize appeal of limited government.")

I'm not sure the law matters all that much. I'm a bit doubtful the modern day US military would be genuinely willing to use violence to retain a state that tried to leave peacefully and democratically.

Also, California already has a militia. We just call it the "National Guard" these days.

Re: California Secession Making Headway in Silicon Valley Community

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post #12

Lol given the current California budget situation, would not recommend.

California has a pretty good budget situation, not perfect but much better. Indeed we have a surplus. The problem with CA and with most other states is long term public employee retirement costs.

The citizens raised taxes and gave Brown Democratic supermajorities which shut down Republican budget brinksmanship. Brown has righted the ship that Schwarzenegger left but medium term will require restructuring those retirement commitments.

Schwarzenegger was pretty much the same as Gray Davis. Not the worst, not the best but unwilling to do the really hard budget work. Jerry Brown lives to work.

Re: California Secession Making Headway in Silicon Valley Community

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Few questions:

1. Lots of talk about California and its economy. Is a possible reason it has such a strong economy because it's a part of the USA? Would it continue to have a strong economy as its own nation state?

2. How would they defend themselves military? Texas seems to have a lot more military inclined folk than California. What would they do without the support of the US Army?

3. If they put it to a vote, they need 2/3 yes to pass. The Democrats didn't have that many votes for Hillary in the presidential election. What makes anyone think that all Democrats + some Republicans would be OK with this? Forget about the rest of the states.

4. Did this joker really suggest that "small states with little diversity shouldn't determine Presidency"? Are you serious. Get a grip!

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